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09-06-2017 , 11:55 PM
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He hates Trump as much as anyone guys.
I do hate Trump. I hate basically everything he has done.

But I can admit when he does something right.

And he has gotten this right.

I know you can't see it and will argue endlessly on the opposite side, which is okay. I literally never have to deal with Americans anymore, which is great.

But when Congress reaches a deal on DACA, remember this conversation. It's already happening. Read the Politico article. There's a common sense approach to this problem. Which is what really matters in the end.
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jsb, like you, I don't live in the USA. I also don't lie and say really dumb things like "I'm against Trump as much as anyone else here" before going on a multi day posting binge in defense of racist policies. You realize people can search your posts, right? You've literally never made a specific anti Trump post in your 6 years of being on 2p2. The CLOSEST you ever got was calling him unqualified. You have never spoken out against a GOP/Trump issue.

As Matty said, are you going to be really mad at Colorado for subverting federal drug laws? I'm sure you have made similar posts. This is the exact same thing.
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Because I looked into it. Is that hard to understand?

I saw his comment and remarked about it. Then I researched it and found that he made it to a bunch of kids at school, and basically said "Don't worry about being in the country illegally, because you aren't going to be deported as long as you are in Chicago."

So, again, how is that not a clear case of him violating federal law? Unless we are now doing immigration policy on a city by city basis.

Time's yours.
Sounds good to me. Considering immigration enforcement doesn't fall under the pervue of City or state government.

Conservatives don't get to be all about state rights except on this one issue.
09-06-2017 , 11:56 PM
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As Matty said, are you going to be really mad at Colorado for subverting federal drug laws? I'm sure you have made similar posts. This is the exact same thing.
You would be wrong, again.

Not an unfamiliar feeling for you, I would bet.
09-06-2017 , 11:58 PM
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Sounds good to me. Considering immigration enforcement doesn't fall under the pervue of City or state government.

Conservatives don't get to be all about state rights except on this one issue.
Since I am not a conservative, I agree with you.
09-06-2017 , 11:59 PM
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You would be wrong, again.

Not an unfamiliar feeling for you, I would bet.
Guys, could I have been any thicker with my sarcasm before it flew right over his head?
09-07-2017 , 12:01 AM
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Guys, could I have been any thicker with my sarcasm before it flew right over his head?
Do you have imaginary internet friends?

Sad.

(Ooops, I guess that means I love Trump.)
09-07-2017 , 12:02 AM
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Since I am not a conservative, I agree with you.
You're espousing their viewpoint on this issue perfectly.
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You're espousing their viewpoint on this issue perfectly.
I wonder if he realizes he just argued against the point he's been trying to make the last half dozen or so posts. I imagine he didn't realize the contradiction, because he is really dumb and does not understand how immigration enforcement works.
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You're espousing their viewpoint on this issue perfectly.
No, i am hopeful the US government implements a common-sense policy that treats 12 million people fairly. People who provide 25 percent of the country's food and does a lot of the other crappy jobs no one else wants to do. That's all I want. DACA doesn't do that. It isn't even close.

And if Trump can do it, that's fine with me.
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Can I call this guy dumb without getting banned?

Just asking a question.
Just call him Al
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I do hate Trump. I hate basically everything he has done.

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Really bad luck that despite hating everything Trump has ever done, you've made exactly zero posts about any of those subjects, but have instead made many not understanding immigration enforcement and stanning for rounding up and deporting children from sanctuary cities.
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Really bad luck that despite hating everything Trump has ever done, you've made exactly zero posts about any of those subjects, but have instead made many not understanding immigration enforcement and stanning for rounding up and deporting children from sanctuary cities.
i want to prevent that from happening. But to give them any real long-term security, there needs to be a change in federal law.

A simple concept you seem unable to grasp.
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No, i am hopeful the US government implements a common-sense policy that treats 12 million people fairly. People who provide 25 percent of the country's food and does a lot of the other crappy jobs no one else wants to do. That's all I want. DACA doesn't do that. It isn't even close.

And if Trump can do it, that's fine with me.
We were discussing your eronious claims about Rahm Emanuel.
09-07-2017 , 12:11 AM
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No, i am hopeful the US government implements a common-sense policy that treats 12 million people fairly. People who provide 25 percent of the country's food and does a lot of the other crappy jobs no one else wants to do. That's all I want. DACA doesn't do that. It isn't even close.

And if Trump can do it, that's fine with me.
coolstorybro

what does that have to do with DACA children?
09-07-2017 , 12:13 AM
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Are you being honest in your assessment of the likelihood of that happening with Trump's direction or assistance?
Did you read the Politico article?

Here it is again.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ty-daca-242413

That gives me hope.
09-07-2017 , 12:14 AM
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what does that have to do with DACA children?
They say the key to great investigative journalism is often nothing more than connecting dots.

Sadly, you will probably never be a great investigative journalist.
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Lots of snark for being completely wrong.
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You are literally the reason I hate liberals as much as conservatives. You can't admit when you are wrong.

Emanuel can create a sanctuary city all he wants. But can he prevent immigration officials from rounding up all the dreamers and deporting them? They registered with the federal government. They know where they live. They have to check in at a federal office.

So how does he make that promise to them? Unless he plans on violating federal law to protect them, which is what he promised to do.
Wish he could and would.
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This isn't true:

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“The Republican criticism is, if you just provide legal status and do no more, you incentivize people to keep coming,” Graham said in an interview Wednesday. “So I think the deal is a border security package that’s reasonable, effective and married up with the DREAM Act.”
I mean that is the Republican criticism but it's not based in reality.
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We were discussing your eronious claims about Rahm Emanuel.
A little off topic, but you don't happen to want to play scrabble for large amounts of money, do you?
09-07-2017 , 12:25 AM
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Because I looked into it. Is that hard to understand?

I saw his comment and remarked about it. Then I researched it and found that he made it to a bunch of kids at school, and basically said "Don't worry about being in the country illegally, because you aren't going to be deported as long as you are in Chicago."

So, again, how is that not a clear case of him violating federal law? Unless we are now doing immigration policy on a city by city basis.

Time's yours.
mother****er it is not his job nor his obligation to enforce federal immigration law, this has been explained to you already

but sure, you hate trump more than anybody. why are you people so bad at pretending? oh wait, i know why, because you're not nearly as smart as you think you are
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A little off topic, but you don't happen to want to play scrabble for large amounts of money, do you?
As you can tell, I suck at it.

Plus, although misspelled it was used correctly.
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It's easy to understand.

The schools, neighborhoods, and city of Chicago won't arrest Dreamers just like cops in Colorado won't arrest you for smoking pot.

Oh and BTW, if you have ever smoked pot and are whining about Dreamers violating Federal Law, you are a F'ing hypocrite.
this is a terrible, terrible comparison. namely, because it equivocates an adult/teenager making a conscious decision to smoke weed, with a young child being brought here illegally by their parents
09-07-2017 , 12:33 AM
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Did you read the Politico article?

Here it is again.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ty-daca-242413

That gives me hope.
So Trump putting hundreds of thousands of lives into dire uncertainty as a political move to gain leverage with Democrats... that gives you hope that he'll treat people fairly?
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