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09-05-2017 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
all borders should be open.

There is no moral reason for borders. You like them because by pure chance you were born here and not in the NK.
I'm going to read that Atlantic article, but the fact remains...

The American people reject open borders.

It's not even a reasonable political position.

We have had borders since antiquity. We will always have tribal alliances. I would say it's an innate part of being human.
09-05-2017 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999

Racist trash reject open borders.
fyp
09-05-2017 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
I'm going to read that Atlantic article, but the fact remains...

The American people reject open borders.

It's not even a reasonable political position.
No they don't. Most American people enjoy open borders between states and countries, enabling ease of movement and trade.
09-05-2017 , 08:56 PM
Awval means he and his trumpkin brethren reject them for brown people. If they were restricted to white Christians they would be all in.

Funny how he shows up when his nazi daddy shines the racist bat signal to the sky. Awval must be positively beeming with pride today.
09-05-2017 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
I'm going to read that Atlantic article, but the fact remains...

The American people reject open borders.

It's not even a reasonable political position.


Yet most people oppose a wall (66%) and most favor a path to citizenship for people here illegally (88%!). I don't hear you chiming about either of those things.

09-05-2017 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
The American people reject open borders.
The cost of produce tells me otherwise.
09-05-2017 , 08:58 PM
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09-05-2017 , 09:00 PM
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09-05-2017 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
You can tell just how weak the merits of ending DACA are and just how acutely aware these people are of how unpopular and indefensible this move is when their defenses are even more incoherent than usual.
I'm actually in favor of immigration reform and allowing more migration from Central America and Mexico into the United States. And I also think the US should treat people who were brought to the country as children in a fair and equitable manner.

But if the US Congress doesn't feel the same way, what can any of us really do about it?

I hate Donald Trump more than anyone, but he's absolutely right on this one.
09-05-2017 , 09:00 PM
And on DACA.

It's the right policy. It truly is. These kids, are American. Maybe not born, but raised. The fact remains, however, the Constitution, Article 1 Section 8 clearly gives the Congress the power to regulate immigration, not the Executive.

DACA isn't Constitutional.

We can't disregard the law even though the law sucks. The legislators need to make it law. Full stop.
09-05-2017 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999

We have had borders since antiquity. We will always have tribal alliances. I would say it's an innate part of being human.
Unsurprisingly, you know nothing about archaeology or anthropology.
09-05-2017 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
And on DACA.

It's the right policy. It truly is. These kids, are American. Maybe not born, but raised. The fact remains, however, the Constitution, Article 1 Section 8 clearly gives the Congress the power to regulate immigration, not the Executive.

DACA isn't Constitutional.

We can't disregard the law even though the law sucks. The legislators need to make it law. Full stop.
Oh **** off. You don't give a **** about constitutionality.
09-05-2017 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
We must strongly enforce all laws that harm brown people and ignore those which harm white people.
-awval
09-05-2017 , 09:04 PM
TIL that even during the time antiquity, when people thought the earth was flat and had not yet grasped cartography, they understood the concept of open vs closed borders as perfectly as we do now.
09-05-2017 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
Lol here comes the piiiiiiiiiiivvoottt
sklansky will be here to declare victory any second now
09-05-2017 , 09:07 PM
On immigration, we need more immigrants here. Hell, it helps pay for social security, for taxes, we don't want to be Japan.

And culturally, Mexicans/Central Americans are much more culturally similar to Americans than the issue that Europe has with increasing immigration with Muslims.

I'm for high wage and low wage immigration. I'm against a lottery. There's plenty of people that want to immigrate and work hard. That's really the only "test" I've have. No welfare benefits. Work hard. Let's do it. But let's do it legally.
09-05-2017 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jsb235
I hate Donald Trump more than anyone
nope

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but he's absolutely right on this one.
aaaand nope
09-05-2017 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
On immigration, we need more immigrants here. Hell, it helps pay for social security, for taxes, we don't want to be Japan.

And culturally, Mexicans/Central Americans are much more culturally similar to Americans than the issue that Europe has with increasing immigration with Muslims.

I'm for high wage and low wage immigration. I'm against a lottery. There's plenty of people that want to immigrate and work hard. That's really the only "test" I've have. No welfare benefits. Work hard. Let's do it. But let's do it legally.
You are so FOS.
09-05-2017 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Oh **** off. You don't give a **** about constitutionality.
I don't think we want an Executive that makes laws.

The fact is, Executive Orders can be rescinded by the next President. It's much easier to rescind an EO than it is to repeal a law.
09-05-2017 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
I don't think we want an Executive that makes laws.

The fact is, Executive Orders can be rescinded by the next President. It's much easier to rescind an EO than it is to repeal a law.
The guy you voted for made an executive order to ban Muslims.
09-05-2017 , 09:11 PM
lol awval

Absolutely nobody buys your BS. You're scrambling to come up with whatever excuses you can find to justify whatever it is Daddy does. That is your entire ****ing political worldview. Nothing else matters.
09-05-2017 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DrChesspain
This is like saying "Yeah, I know that approximately the same percentage of white people and black people illegally smoke marijuana, but it's just good governance that the police focus their marijuana arrests on black folk."
But according to your example do whites and blacks have an equal right to live in your country?
09-05-2017 , 09:12 PM
Awval suddenly appeared today because he simply could not contain his glee over the massive racist bat signal sent by his daddy. He is on a huge high so wants to **** with some snowflake libs too.
09-05-2017 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by prana
The guy you voted for made an executive order to ban Muslims.
So executive orders are bad or good? I don't get your point.

Clearly Trump shouldn't have done that. But how is that an argument for DACA?
09-05-2017 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by prana
Yet most people oppose a wall (66%) and most favor a path to citizenship for people here illegally (88%!). I don't hear you chiming about either of those things.

Absolutely a path to citizenship. I've said before, a few years ago in another post, we don't want second class Americans, people who can never be citizens.

The wall. I mean it's a phallic monument to the President. To me it's always been a metaphor more than bricks and mortar. Although I do realize some people want the bricks and mortar.

      
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