Re Trump's agenda:

Well if Man doesn't like it, maybe he should consider, you know, not getting Woman pregnant.

Orwell was wrong: that's exactly why many dictatorships were established (as described in Darkness at Noon).

Leaving aside part (g) for the moment, who gets to define abuse of programs related to public funds, and how many weeks will go by before "abusing" gets translated into "using" (i.e. get rid of those goddamn freeloading foreigners on food stamps)?

They just don't care.

Well, for starters let's start with the men themselves. Both think they alone can solve the problems of their respective countries. Both think there's an ethnic group responsible for holding their country back. With Hilter, it was Jews. With Trump, it's scary Muslims that want to kill you. Both take every single slight against them personally. Both have an unhealthy grandiose view of themselves. They literally think they are better than everyone else. That's just for starters.

See, here's the thing. No one is comparing Trump today to Hitler when Hitler was at the height of his powers. But that's where Trumpkins go. It's such simplistic thinking. No, when Trump is compared to Hitler, its to the late 20's and early 30's before Hitler became you know, Hitler. Since history tends to repeat itself, people are concerned that Trump will eventually have the same power that Hitler had if he is left unchecked.

Now I know you are going to say "This is the United States. That won't happen here!" And to that, I say "Bull****." It can happen anywhere. You already have Trump doing **** where people that are in the US legally one minute are literally illegal the following minute. 100K people lost their visa INSTANTLY. I know that doesn't concern you because #MAGA but it is quite a big deal to those that actually pay attention to what is going on.

I'm not sure but part D could probably be interpreted as broadly as paying federal income taxes as an undocumented immigrant. But I'm not a lawyer.

There's already a draft executive order that would do that...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtm...-to-go-hungry/

In the passage before that exerpt he talks about previous dictatorships:

Hitler was an ideologue. Trump isn't. Bannon's ideology? Nihilism? (not even an ethos) Power for its own sake?

I don't ignore it at all. I see it as a change in policy. One can debate whether the change in policy is good or not and the courts will decide if the policy is consistent with the US Constitution

In 2014 Obama issued executive orders essentially changing US immigration policy. You didn't object (i think) at the time because you liked the new direction. I don't remember you saying Obama was making a mockery of the constitution at the time, but now Turmp is for doing the same thing in the opposite direction. I don't get that.

In my opinion the congress sets immigration policy and the executive is supposed to faithfully execute it.... but that seldom happens in reality.

No... I think the Euros have their shorts in a knot for a number of reasons. It looks like they are going to have to spend a lot more for their own collective defense and they aren't happy about it. Trump is an anti socialist and that offends the social democrats. Trump is a turd as a human being and that can certainly irritate people.

But siding with the majority, just because they are the majority has failed at many junctures of history. Being a contrarian is generally the best policy (at least on wall street).

But if you are asking me if I am concerned about Euro's opinion.... not particularly... Trump is going to cost them $$$ that they would prefer to spend on their democratic socialist paradise.

“He would literally be taking food out of the mouths of babes,” heh. Typo aside, that's ****ing awful.

The problem is that it's the woman who has to carry the child to term.

This is a great poast!

For some reason I'm reminded of the old Nazi in the Python sketch who insisted he was British: 'Nein! Nein! I am being born in your Huddersfield!'

+1. A better worded statement of what I was saying.

It it's not becoming clear, despite it all being about the economy, none of that **** is raising an eyebrow. They are however saying Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do wrt to Muslims and Mexicans. All the people I asked why the **** they would vote for Trump a few months ago couldn't name anything specific but now they sure are liking the **** out of memes about killing Muslims and sanctuary cities being targeted.

Action for action's sake is one of the tenets of Ur-Fascism. There are 14 total tenets and Trump's movement seems to exhibit most if not all of them already. I've heard Trump supporters say "He's really getting things done" and "He's fulfilling his campaign promises." This is operating at a subconscious level but the principle is clear:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/

They think that by getting rid of big government, the free market takes over and their cable/internet bill will go down.

Also, screw the poors. They can pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get a job to pay for the internet.

I don't have the time to rebut point by point, but what you say here is I feel Trump might become hitlerian somehow. That isn't a very strong argument to me.

First everyone who runs for president has an oversized ego. You don't think HRC thinks she's the smartest person in the room and has all the answers. The first and second prerequisites for running for president is having an over sized ego and enormous hubris. Certainly not exclusive to Trump.

To "there's an ethnic group holding the country" back analogy falls completely on its face. Hitler blamed everything (especially the economy) on greedy subhuman Jews.

Trump never says anything about Muslims in that regard other than a sub set of them is dedicated to the violent overthrow of any system other than their own theocracy. He didn't blame them for the market crash in 2008 or anything hitlarian like that.

Now if the courts rule against his EO's on visas from certain countries, he'll have to abide.... if it doesn't, his EO's will stand. Simple stuff, really

I'm not feeling a threat to democracy here....

So how long til we have our first lawsuit over the Australian refugees not being let in? I will say by Wednesday

At least for now it seems like Trump is going to follow the court order despite disagreeing with it and they plan to oppose it through the proper channels. I guess that's something.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...204-story.html

They have no capacity for empathy. It's practically impossible to get a conservative to imagine been for a moment that they could ever experience anything other than their own set of circumstances.

That's why you see so many changes of hearts from conservatives after they experience something traumatic or difficult: they realize liberals have been right all along and they, the conservative, have been blinded by ideology.

From what I gather he can't do anything til Monday but I believe Monday morning they will seek a stay on the order which likely will be granted and then we will await the next step. If it goes to the Supreme Court once Gorsuch is in its gonna to be upheld and it'll likely take that long to get there. Easily 2-3 months