Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-04-2017 , 12:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clovis8
If we all concede white men are the most aggrieved social class on earth right now will you promise to go away forever?
A growing number of feminists - you know, that group of women that gives their unconditional support to white men - make the argument that paternity rights in the US are unfair to men, especially when it comes to child support.
02-04-2017 , 12:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
JFC
02-04-2017 , 12:36 PM
All things considered regarding the ban, Bannon, et al, what odds would you place on the possibility of a domestic false flag type of attack/incident within the next 6 months?

1 in 10

1 in 100

1 in 1000

1 in 10,000
02-04-2017 , 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by np1235711
Very nice history lesson, but where are the illegal jailings and the unconstitutional acts in defiance of the legal system?
Considering we're only a couple of weeks in, things are ramping up swiftly:
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/02/0...t-74-arrested/
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...n_muslims.html

They're mass overcharging protestors and Republican government officials are suggesting murdering political protestors in cold blood.
02-04-2017 , 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riverman
Can someone cliffs this thing? Do I have this right?

Federal judge appointed by W and approved 99-0 issues a nationwide stay
Are we talking about Trump's Supreme Court nominee? Please be sure to be intellectually consistent when the Greek Chorus is screaming for a filibuster to block a W appointee who passed the senate unanimously....
02-04-2017 , 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeroDeniro
A growing number of feminists - you know, that group of women that gives their unconditional support to white men - make the argument that paternity rights in the US are unfair to men, especially when it comes to child support.
I concede, white men have it really bad in America. There is nothing tougher than being a white male today. You have won this debate. No need for you to make any further posts.
02-04-2017 , 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzzer99
Yes I am. More like crippling dread though.

I could make a bloody fortune selling Prozac and Valium on this site....
02-04-2017 , 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by einbert
Considering we're only a couple of weeks in, things are ramping up swiftly:
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/02/0...t-74-arrested/
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...n_muslims.html

They're mass overcharging protestors and Republican government officials are suggesting murdering political protestors in cold blood.
What the hell is "Portage acacian"?
02-04-2017 , 12:41 PM
It means poor education, but using the words in normal conversation means the one using it has poor education by using obscure phrases no one knows about just to sound smart.
02-04-2017 , 12:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrWookie
So, is your thesis that if liberals just sat quiet and let Trump do whatever he wants, then he wouldn't do whatever he wants in the face of a terrorist attack?
I don't want them to be quite at all.... just obey the laws and allow free speech.
02-04-2017 , 12:43 PM
In before Dan Adamini appointment.
02-04-2017 , 12:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzzer99
JFC
Of the endless reservoir of Trump's human failings, the most dangerous and scary is his total lack of knowledge on virtually any topic. Without even a basic understanding of a given topic he can never be expected to make a good choice but rather is forced to simply agree with the last person he spoke to because by definition they will be far more prepared and knowledgable about this issue.

Can anyone imagine him ever saying anything like, "well actually I read recently that study X, intelligence briefing Y or expert Z has good evidence that A is true and therefore your position has some evidentiary issues and I am going to go a different way on this issue."
02-04-2017 , 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by np1235711
I don't want them to be quite at all.... just obey the laws and allow free speech.
This is, "coincidentally", also what you wanted black people to do in the Civil Rights era.
02-04-2017 , 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordJvK
Because virtue signalling to your own children is all that matters?

I live in the real world, I'm afraid, and I have to operate on that basis.
Your mask is slipping, bro.

Quote:
Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
This is becoming an incredibly useful shibboleth.

It's sad that it's devolved so quickly, because in and of itself it's a fairly astute description of a lot of behaviours (though it's much more interesting outside of political spheres: dutiful condemnation of selfies, reflexive scorn for CGI in movies etc - these are the interesting and illuminating instances of virtue signalling imo).

Now, any appeal to moral sentiments is 'virtue signalling' - providing it comes from the left. If you can't show that your opponent is wrong, you must claim that he's insincere. Even actions - protests, lawsuits, the prevention of attempted incitement to violence against non-nationals - these are all just 'virtue signalling' and as such need be paid no mind. Of course once it can be used to describe anything, it means nothing, which is a shame.
Exactly.

Spoiler alert, bros. Lord is over in Chezland raging against social justice warriors, making him a social injustice warrior. All of his posting here is completely insincere.
02-04-2017 , 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzzer99
JFC with this bull****. Berkley is the most liberal campus on earth. Of course they're going to over-react.
This is just nitting, but student populations are significantly more liberal at little schools like Lewis and Clark, Reed, Oberlin etc. imo. The riots in Berkeley are a product of it being a large liberal leaning school that can have big demonstrations in a very liberal city/area with a lot of non-student radicals and being a place where a lot of skateboarders and teenagers in gangs hang out.

UCLA, for example, is more different because Westwood is different. And UC Irvine? Forget about it. UC Irvine has plenty of radical students, but you know what it's like off campus.
02-04-2017 , 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by surfinillini
All things considered regarding the ban, Bannon, et al, what odds would you place on the possibility of a domestic false flag type of attack/incident within the next 6 months?

1 in 10

1 in 100

1 in 1000

1 in 10,000
Given that Putin could be available to help - I'd say it's pretty high. But they might wait until right before midterms.
02-04-2017 , 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by np1235711
I could make a bloody fortune selling Prozac and Valium on this site....
Anyone who isn't concerned is either a) low-info or b) wants it all to burn down.
02-04-2017 , 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clovis8
Thanks we will fight him at every turn while you bow down to the biggest threat to global security since Hitler.

I would snap be we will be proud to tell our children our role in 20 years while you will be pretending you had joined our fight.
Georges Santayana says hello.... you realize the political rioting of 1968 lead to 24 out of the next 28 years of Republican rule. The American middle class is not a big fan of rioting and civil disorder.

You also realize Dr King won the moral argument without violence on his side.
02-04-2017 , 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordJvK
In the first instance I think you have to pipe down, accept he won, re-group, think about what went wrong, think about how to beat him in four years.

Trump is one of the only politicians any of us have ever seen who does this:

1. I am making this promise.
2. Now I am delivering on this promise.

Now, given that, he's taking a huge risk with his base. If he cannot deliver his promise, if he screws things up, they will turn against him. If he doesn't, then hey ho, a good economy is a good thing right.

But if he does screw up, then you can start to really hurt him.

This stuff, this stuff right here, only makes him stronger.

He can turn and say "look, these elites are trying to stop the will of you, the people".

He can say "look, we were right, they are sore losers and they cannot take it, and they want to keep you down"

etc. etc.

Got to be smarter than this. If things continue this way, mark my words, Trump will win again. And after him someone like him again. And again.

And so on, until people learn the lessons of 2016.

Same here in the UK too.
What are you talking about? Politicians deliver on promises all the time. Like, Obama campaigned on healthcare, and he delivered a big healthcare bill. Bush promised tax cuts for the wealthy; delivered a big tax cut for the wealthy. The idea that Trump is some unique straight shooter is a Trumpist myth (and you seem kind of like a stealth-Trumpist concern troll). Trump just says horribly racist things that are outside of the mainstream but that are popular with a big minority of voters, which reads as difficult truth-telling to racists.
02-04-2017 , 12:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by einbert
They're mass overcharging protestors and Republican government officials are suggesting murdering political protestors in cold blood.
I know this is the wrong thing to be angry about right now, but there were four people who died in Kent State, you doughy illiterate pusbag. It's kinda easy to remember that because it's right there in the goddamn chorus --four dead in Ohio-- how is it you don't even know your own generation's pop cultural touchstones?
02-04-2017 , 12:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by np1235711
Georges Santayana says hello.... you realize the political rioting of 1968 lead to 24 out of the next 28 years of Republican rule. The American middle class is not a big fan of rioting and civil disorder.

You also realize Dr King won the moral argument without violence on his side.
In the broken brains of the right protest equals violence.
02-04-2017 , 12:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzzer99
Anyone who isn't concerned is either a) low-info or b) wants it all to burn down.
Oh... please....

Right.... only you and the Greek Chorus "gets it".

I am going to buy a lot of stock in diaper companies Monday because if this board is any example, a lot of people are wetting themselves regularly.
02-04-2017 , 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
This is becoming an incredibly useful shibboleth.

It's sad that it's devolved so quickly, because in and of itself it's a fairly astute description of a lot of behaviours (though it's much more interesting outside of political spheres: dutiful condemnation of selfies, reflexive scorn for CGI in movies etc - these are the interesting and illuminating instances of virtue signalling imo).

Now, any appeal to moral sentiments is 'virtue signalling' - providing it comes from the left. If you can't show that your opponent is wrong, you must claim that he's insincere. Even actions - protests, lawsuits, the prevention of attempted incitement to violence against non-nationals - these are all just 'virtue signalling' and as such need be paid no mind. Of course once it can be used to describe anything, it means nothing, which is a shame.
Virtue signalling has always been a stupid term, because it doesn't really describe any signalling concept. The core concept of signalling is that it's a behavior that is costly to imitate if you don't have the characteristic that is being signalled (in this case, virtue). Cheap talk is the exact opposite of virtue signalling. The term you want is "sanctimonious bull****." More accurate, more descriptive, and less subject to the abusive ways people use "virtue signalling."
02-04-2017 , 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clovis8
Of the endless reservoir of Trump's human failings, the most dangerous and scary is his total lack of knowledge on virtually any topic. Without even a basic understanding of a given topic he can never be expected to make a good choice but rather is forced to simply agree with the last person he spoke to because by definition they will be far more prepared and knowledgable about this issue.

Can anyone imagine him ever saying anything like, "well actually I read recently that study X, intelligence briefing Y or expert Z has good evidence that A is true and therefore your position has some evidentiary issues and I am going to go a different way on this issue."
Combine that with Bannon being chief strategist. This is fine.
02-04-2017 , 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
It means poor education, but using the words in normal conversation means the one using it has poor education by using obscure phrases no one knows about just to sound smart.
Reminiscent of William F. Buckley who often started a sentence with something like "potage acacian" and ended it with something like "I'd like to smash your god damned face in."

      
m