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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

08-21-2017 , 11:19 PM
There are very few Amashes on Capitol Hill, for better or, in this particular case, for worse.
08-21-2017 , 11:37 PM
Treasury secretary’s wife boasts of travel on government plane, touts Hermes and Valentino fashion
“Did you think this was a personal trip?!” Linton wrote on her Instagram page, responding to the person who had written “glad we could pay for your little getaway.”

Linton continued in her response to the critic: “Adorable! Do you think the US govt paid for our honeymoon or personal travel?! Lololol. Have you given more to the economy than me and my husband? Either as an individual earner in taxes OR in self sacrifice to your country? I’m pretty sure we paid more taxes toward our day ‘trip’ than you did. Pretty sure the amount we sacrifice per year is a lot more than you’d be willing to sacrifice if the choice was yours.”
08-21-2017 , 11:48 PM
That's the problem with having taxes and death be the only two metrics to measure sacrifice. The 1% gets to 'sacrifice' more while going on vacations, buying expensive art, and getting a second yacht. The 99% can never compete in giving, living the Instagram life, or 'sacrificing' except in dying on the battlefield for the country, which they do a lot more of.
08-22-2017 , 12:00 AM
When the 99% die in the service of the country, at least we can count on Trump to recognize their sacrifice with a hearty, "that's too bad."
08-22-2017 , 12:17 AM
08-22-2017 , 01:43 AM
Take off one day and some guy I've never seen named Yados is AIDSing up the thread. Good times.
08-22-2017 , 01:57 AM
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/s...60669213941760


these clowns are acting as if science has a liberal bias, and liberals lost by like 10 million votes if you discount the rampant voter fraud so **** everything that they agree with maga
08-22-2017 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
is this real???
Real or onion has lost all meaning.
08-22-2017 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/s...60669213941760


these clowns are acting as if science has a liberal bias, and liberals lost by like 10 million votes if you discount the rampant voter fraud so **** everything that they agree with maga
It's better for them to be accused of hypocrisy, stupidity, or ignorance, than of what they're actually doing to screw us. Apply this concept wherever you want in this government to see if it fits.

EDIT: If we peel away the hypocrisy, stupidity, and ignorance (and hate), all that's left to look at are a bunch of naked actions moving in the same direction.

Last edited by Our House; 08-22-2017 at 02:45 AM.
08-22-2017 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
these clowns are acting as if science has a liberal bias, and liberals lost by like 10 million votes if you discount the rampant voter fraud so **** everything that they agree with maga
To be fair, science does have a liberal bias. Science lines up with liberals way more often then it does with conservatives. That being said, f*** this administration so hard. Everything they do is backwards and regressive.
08-22-2017 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Coasterbrad
To be fair, science does have a liberal bias. Science lines up with liberals way more often then it does with conservatives. That being said, f*** this administration so hard. Everything they do is backwards and regressive.
This is just stupid. It's like saying car repair has a liberal bias. Science is an epistemological method. It doesn't have bias.

You can argue scientists, on average, have a liberal bias but all this shows is the people with the greatest amount of knowledge tend to lean liberal. This is an indictment of the right, not the left.
08-22-2017 , 09:00 AM
Did he call out Russia for openly arming and funding the Taliban? I did not watch the speech obv.
08-22-2017 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
This is just stupid. It's like saying car repair has a liberal bias. Science is an epistemological method. It doesn't have bias.

You can argue scientists, on average, have a liberal bias but all this shows is the people with the greatest amount of knowledge tend to lean liberal. This is an indictment of the right, not the left.
Uh yea we're on the same page Clovis. I am by no means saying this is an indictment of the left. I meant "science has a liberal bias" in the sense that liberals understand and appreciate science. I guess that didn't come across clearly in my post. I know the actual science is unbiased.
08-22-2017 , 09:08 AM
It's probably more accurate to say liberals have a scientific bias.
08-22-2017 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
It's probably more accurate to say liberals have a scientific bias.
Nah it's the centrists with the science bias. The extremes make up their facts. Global warming and anti-vaxxers for example.

-scientist.
08-22-2017 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by danspartan
Nah it's the centrists with the science bias. The extremes make up their facts. Global warming and anti-vaxxers for example.

-scientist.
This.
08-22-2017 , 09:50 AM
Centrist is a political orientation that makes up or ignores facts as much as any other. Probably more.

The anti-vaxxer thing goes on both the left and the right and the way it's used as an attack on the left is pathetic. And it's probably more centrist than left anyway. It's mostly a bunch of very upper middle class (rich) people who think it's good for the masses, but not their snowflakes. These are not radical leftists.

Compromise as an ethos is hardly scientific.
08-22-2017 , 09:59 AM
Centrists ignore different facts though. Their "triangulation" has their politicians saying so many different things on similar issues that people just get to fill in the blanks with anything their little imagination can conjure. All that is required is a desire not to affiliate with the racists and hillbillies on the other side and a desire to look the other way while they continue to forge bipartisan consensus on economically raping the third world.
08-22-2017 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by danspartan
Nah it's the centrists with the science bias. The extremes make up their facts. Global warming and anti-vaxxers for example.

-scientist.
This is factually untrue. Studies actually show that more liberals than conservatives believe that vaccines should be mandatory, and that in recent years, the gap is actually widening, with the % of liberals holding that view going up, while the % of conservatives holding that view going down. The misnomer that the anti-vaxxer movement is some extreme liberal cause is probably due to the faces of the cause, notably, Jenny McCarthy and Gwyneth Paltrow, are liberal. As Microbet mentioned, it's more of a rich, white thing than anything.

And of course, on climate change, the numbers are staggeringly different between the two parties on the subject. Not just as far as whether climate change is real and caused by humans, but on things like how much we should trust scientists and what we think scientists are motivated by.

And to say nothing of religion of course, where conservatives are overwhelmingly moreso. And of course a little thing called evolution, where the jury is still out for MORE THAN HALF of conservatives.

So yeah, this idea that it's only the extremes of the parties that hold the extreme non-scientific views is bull****.
08-22-2017 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Coasterbrad
Uh yea we're on the same page Clovis. I am by no means saying this is an indictment of the left. I meant "science has a liberal bias" in the sense that liberals understand and appreciate science. I guess that didn't come across clearly in my post. I know the actual science is unbiased.
What do you mean "actual" science? Science is a methodology, not a set of fixed statements.

A conservative worldview, like a religious worldview, is more black and white than a liberal one. The anti-scientific nature to assert ideas as fact, and then scramble to collect supporting evidence isn't a political bias, it's just wrong. (Maybe "wrong" is the wrong word. It's not reality-based.)
08-22-2017 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
What do you mean "actual" science? Science is a methodology, not a set of fixed statements.

A conservative worldview, like a religious worldview, is more black and white than a liberal one. The anti-scientific nature to assert ideas as fact, and then scramble to collect supporting evidence isn't a political bias, it's just wrong. (Maybe "wrong" is the wrong word. It's not reality-based.)
I mean the actual methodology of science. My original comment was poorly worded. Science is unbiased. I agree with you, you just worded it better. And "wrong" is not incorrect.
08-22-2017 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
What do you mean "actual" science? Science is a methodology, not a set of fixed statements.
That's kind of wrong in terms of mathematics.
08-22-2017 , 10:45 AM
Thread quickly getting an aids bias
08-22-2017 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
That's kind of wrong in terms of mathematics.
Thanks Obama
08-22-2017 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
This is just stupid. It's like saying car repair has a liberal bias. Science is an epistemological method. It doesn't have bias.

You can argue scientists, on average, have a liberal bias but all this shows is the people with the greatest amount of knowledge tend to lean liberal. This is an indictment of the right, not the left.
“It is a well known fact that reality has liberal bias.”

      
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