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I would also say, "run a decent candidate," goes without saying. Obviously it's been an issue for the Democrats, but if they've learned anything from these special elections it's that they should be running decent candidates in every race.

You can talk about a popular incumbent (he's the 31st most popular Senator as of April according to polling here https://morningconsult.com/senate-rankings-april-2017/), but also keep in mind that most of his voters/supporters have been brainwashed for YEARS by Fox News to despise Soros, much like Clinton. Publicizing an admitted association with him would be HUGELY detrimental to his approval numbers and his chances of winning an election.

Remember, to a ton of his supporters, the following words/groups are equally heinous: Clinton, Antifa, BLM, Soros, Obama.

I know it's kind of a rhetorical question, but no. No, I can't.

Welp, this is a first in my lifetime, I've never seen someone on network TV advocate the removal of the president. He's trying the DVaut reach-across-the-Wal-Mart-aisle approach too:

Jimmy Kimmel: Trump "Needs To Go"

He makes his direct case to Trump voters empathetically and imploringly from 5:48 on.

Re: I miss Bush


I miss Obama. He did some pretty ****ty things here and there, but man compared to Bush and Trump, he was pretty ****ing great. I realize this when I look at all the **** Trump is undoing that was Obama's work.

Like the finest of fine wines, basically:

Right. I understood we were talking about monuments. The bolded is non substantive. Also understood: that apologists for Jefferson monuments argue the monuments are meant to celebrate a subset of Jefferson's contributions (the ideals we still celebrate) to the national policy, but none of his bad qualities. I get that. So no need to repeat it, and I get the point: we put up this memorial to Jefferson but we don't celebrate or justify the slave raping.

Well, that's all well and good to say. But that's just the Joe Paterno defense: we don't celebrate or justify his failure to report his employees child raping, just the good stuff he did, leave our statues alone. Most of America got intuitively that most Penn State fans were deep into a personality cult and had lost all moral reasoning when presented with those arguments.

It's unconscionable. Of course the national memory is necessarily selective, that our heros will not always be angels. But as has been pointed out numerous times now, Americans have dozens of founding figures to choose from, many of whom were actually committed abolitionists and didn't keep black women as concubines. The decision to deify Jefferson is a choice people make, not some natural consequence of the cosmic order. You can praise the Declaration and its ideals. Put up a monument to that. To the contributions. Celebrating Jefferson is collective moral turpitude. Making it personal, celebrating Jefferson as deified figure is fraught with the same moral problems of celebrating Lee. Defenders insist on knowing the intent of the erectors and the builders of monuments and proclaim it obvious we are not celebrating Jefferson the man but the ideals he wrote down that we celebrate...and then put up a statue of a man. It's quite easy to see why people would think you are celebrating the man and not just the ideals. Especially considering the man himself was a walking contradiction of the ideals he championed.

So: Why not tear out Jefferson from the Jefferson Memorial and erect a big statue of the Declaration? Yet again: celebrating Jefferson, the person, is a choice, and nowhere does it say to cherish the verbiage of the Declaration means we have to embrace Jefferson the man. But we've chosen to lionize Jefferson the man.

If the agenda isn't too full there could be a Kimmel and FCC related tweet in our near future.

Yeah, pretty striking. I saw that and also what Colbert, Fallon and Meyers said. They all went in hard, and good for them. What's interesting is that CNN pointed out that Kimmel had more time to prepare after the press conference than the other hosts, who tape on the East Coast. I wonder if the others would have been more aggressive with more time?

nope, still not there yet. We've had a POTUS tell SCOTUS to go **** itself on a ruling and nobody did **** about that. Nixon went farther than Trump has so far too (tho trump's on pace to beat that I'd say). I'm not a history scholar, so I bet there's a lot more.

So far the damage is simply normalizing a lot of bull**** that was supposed to be things you only read about in history books. well and the death of science.

Look at the bright side, without trump we wouldn't be talking about taking down all the confederate monuments atm.

There's also a bit of E Pleb Nista going on in venerating either the founders or the documents.

Very appropriate typo/misspelling in this Krauthammer transcript:

It also puts into very clear, stark terms how much money was made off the backs of slaves. When Adams talks about "thousands of dollars" he's talking about A LOT OF MONEY.

Jefferson v. Lee the new moral equivalency hotness.

Anti-Fascists v. Neo-Nazis so passé.

Overlooked from that Bannon interview, a lot of the right is going to struggle with this part:

And lol, announcing his Machiavellian plans to the world:

Not Charlottesville but an interesting interview on democracy now.

https://www.democracynow.org/2017/8/...he_antifascist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah_Parish_Lovejoy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)

And other things Bleeding Kansas-related things are what gave me personally a feel for how many white dudes were willing to kill and die in the name of abolition, and how many were ruthlessly opposed, to the point that it was impossible to not notice.

And you thought your crazy racist uncle wasn't going to amount to anything. He's lawyering for the president!

It's not getting baited if the person is serious. And the one thing we should all know by know is they are serious.

Yeah I watched this, was a very good interview. It's about the only thing I came across that wasn't "Antifa are George Soros funded terrorists."





I think it's time to face the fact that the likes of Fox News, Infowars, and Breitbart are winning the propaganda war, and it's not even close.

As a German, every time I see Antifa = radicals mentioned in US media it hurts a little and I know I'm preaching to the choir, here, but still.
If a group of Antifas walks towards me it wouldn't even cross my mind to cross the street - I'm not a ****ing Nazi so the worst thing about them is their smell but I'll ****ing give them that for defending me and other lazy ****ers from the Nazis!

I think this is right and I think in large part it's right because liberals and leftists want to maintain some relationship to the truth and not go directly to easy simple answers that people can understand.

The right is really really good at mashing that amygdala button. Talk to them about voter suppression, poverty, or education and their eyes glaze over. But mention brown people stealing jobs, Sharia Law, or draining the swamp and you can practically hear the hamster inside their heads clawing to get out.

He's going hard after GOP senators this morning:





https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...27175525728256
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...28290698989568
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...36462385979392

dat vice reporter is sexy af bruh.