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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

08-11-2017 , 02:09 PM
I'd hope his approval would be going down as people worry about nuclear war and world war 3, but most of the people who would disapprove of this saber rattling are prolly already not approving trump
08-11-2017 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by toddw8
I think he just wants to get rid of obamacare.
Yeah, this too. After hearing those reports from European Diplomats, we get an idea how important undoing Obama is to him compared to actual policy.

In Trump's current shoes though, even something that important is a much lower priority than avoiding jail or loss of base/power->impeachment.
08-11-2017 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
China has so much to lose from war with the US.

They will only do it if they perceive a territorial threat to their border (in our response to NK).
I've asked this before, but how does WWIII play out? Would China be on our side? I wouldn't think so. We're in a ton of debt to them and they gotta know it's not getting paid back.

Where would Russia fall? Our side or NK/China. What about India and Pakistan?

Does one nuclear strike set off a world wide nuclear holocaust? Or is it possibly contained to just a few?

Regardless whether war is the solution for dealing with NK, I'm pretty sure we all knew the world as we know it would end with a Trump presidency.
08-11-2017 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LFS
Los Angeles often seems like a post-apocalyptic wasteland on a good day, so it's not clear I'd notice if they nuke us. Can't be sure it hasn't already happened, really.
Or how these pieces of **** might respond to millions vaporized by a nuke in LA.

TRUMP
"Now I can win the popular vote."

TILLERSON
"KJU denied it. No choice but to move on. What else can we do, start a fist fight?"

SESSIONS
"Wasn't that a sanctuary city?"

PASTOR JEFFERS
"God finally punished those leftist heathens."

SCOTT PRUITT
"California's environment has been through worse."

NUNES
"Some country squished some grapes." [Voice: It was NK, not Russia] "THAT CRAZY ******* DESTROYED MY ****ING WINERY!"

SCARAMUCCI
"**** **** ******* ****"

STEVEN MILLER
"There goes a bunch of cosmopolitan condos! *Wait was one of those mine?*"

PAUL RYAN
"It's ONE city. The President is new at nuclear war. Give him a break. He's just NEW at this."

MCCONNELL & GOP
"Democrats obstructed a pre-emptive strike."

CONWAY, GORKA, HANNITY...& JEFFREY LORD
"Strongman Trump saved 49 States that weak Obama would have handed over for free (unlike anything President Trump would ever do for Putin, wait, why is everyone talking about Russia when we stopped TPP, approved 1 MILLION Dakota Pipeline JOBS, almost finished talking about repealing & replacing Obama...), Clinton's uranium obviously made it to NK, the DNC murdered everyone in LA seconds before the bomb hit."...& "Sieg Heil!"
08-11-2017 , 02:46 PM
I think we'd see maybe one strike, then a single-strike response, followed by worldwide civil unrest which is what would wind up destroying the planet.
08-11-2017 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Or how these pieces of **** might respond to millions vaporized by a nuke in LA.

TRUMP
"Now I can win the popular vote."

TILLERSON
"KJU denied it. No choice but to move on. What else can we do, start a fist fight?"

SESSIONS
"Wasn't that a sanctuary city?"

PASTOR JEFFERS
"God finally punished those leftist heathens."

SCOTT PRUITT
"California's environment has been through worse."

NUNES
"Some country squished some grapes." [Voice: It was NK, not Russia] "THAT CRAZY ******* DESTROYED MY ****ING WINERY!"

SCARAMUCCI
"**** **** ******* ****"

STEVEN MILLER
"There goes a bunch of cosmopolitan condos! *Wait was one of those mine?*"

PAUL RYAN
"It's ONE city. The President is new at nuclear war. Give him a break. He's just NEW at this."

MCCONNELL & GOP
"Democrats obstructed a pre-emptive strike."

CONWAY, GORKA, HANNITY...& JEFFREY LORD
"Strongman Trump saved 49 States that weak Obama would have handed over for free (unlike anything President Trump would ever do for Putin, wait, why is everyone talking about Russia when we stopped TPP, approved 1 MILLION Dakota Pipeline JOBS, almost finished talking about repealing & replacing Obama...), Clinton's uranium obviously made it to NK, the DNC murdered everyone in LA seconds before the bomb hit."...& "Sieg Heil!"
Internet Winnar for the day. Nice job
08-11-2017 , 03:04 PM
Can we just sit back for a second and realise 6 months into this guy's presidency the world is talking seriously about nuclear war, something that has been avoided for more than 70 years.

Millions don't need to die. Just two.
08-11-2017 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
I've asked this before, but how does WWIII play out? Would China be on our side? I wouldn't think so. We're in a ton of debt to them and they gotta know it's not getting paid back.

Where would Russia fall? Our side or NK/China. What about India and Pakistan?

Does one nuclear strike set off a world wide nuclear holocaust? Or is it possibly contained to just a few?

Regardless whether war is the solution for dealing with NK, I'm pretty sure we all knew the world as we know it would end with a Trump presidency.
Where Russia falls is the biggest question in any situation. Knowing that Trump won't resist anything they do leaves us so vulnerable, under constant threat, and crippled to fight back. Even in the best of circumstances, Team Mueller can't save our country from major problems that are bigger than their job description.
08-11-2017 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jayhawks
Agreed. North Korea gets to shoot their shot once, and that's it and they know it. Kim likes power and wants to stay in power, and war with the U.S. and our allies will end that. He's crazy and unpredictable, but I think he knows at least that much.
Do i get it right that our hope for not having a nuclear war is based on the hope that Kim Jong Un is more reasonable and considerate then the POTUS?
08-11-2017 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by danspartan
Internet Winnar for the day. Nice job
They make it too easy. Can't wait for SNL to get to all of this.
08-11-2017 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
I've asked this before, but how does WWIII play out? Would China be on our side? I wouldn't think so. We're in a ton of debt to them and they gotta know it's not getting paid back.

Where would Russia fall? Our side or NK/China. What about India and Pakistan?

Does one nuclear strike set off a world wide nuclear holocaust? Or is it possibly contained to just a few?

Regardless whether war is the solution for dealing with NK, I'm pretty sure we all knew the world as we know it would end with a Trump presidency.
I don't think China would want the US to lose if the US owes China money, along the rationale that dead men pay no debts.

India/Pakistan would probably just nuke each other.

Russia wants its balkan oil fields and mediterranean access back, which europe will not like.

I don't actually see global armageddon happening. Much of the middle east would probably become a wasteland, though. There's just too much wealth there for anyone to have.

Last edited by iamnotawerewolf; 08-11-2017 at 03:31 PM.
08-11-2017 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
This is the most of it, for Trump. Maybe add in the huge amount of high level Russian criminal activity taking place at Trump properties over the decades. We know this because of the countless raids conducted on tenants in which arrests were made, and how many were people Trump knew (sometimes very well) and then forgot he knew after they got busted. And that's just Trump Tower.

Aside from Trump, there are other related goings on from each of the campaign, the White House, the cabinet, and the GOP.

Step back another level and we see how American issues are just a part of Putin's agenda. And the evilness of his actions is only limited by how much he can get away with. As probably the richest, and one of the most powerful people in the world, his ambitions make him the biggest danger global Democracy has faced.

We need to be doing something about this stuff months, maybe years ago. Instead, Trump is helping to escalate the chiseling away of our basic rights and needs. Otherwise we should soon start accepting a life much more like the people of Russia and North Korea, and get used to the fact that the criminals in Our Leader's inner circle will be the only ones who can have anything.

There's probably a pee tape too.
Where are you getting this from? Literally COUNTLESS raids have happened? I mean I'm not certain but I feel like "raids" happening again and again in the same location, (Trump Tower no less) would have had some sort of mention in any news cycle? No offense but some of your posts are more and more like all those stupid conspiritard Facebook memes.
08-11-2017 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
Do i get it right that our hope for not having a nuclear war is based on the hope that Kim Jong Un is more reasonable and considerate then the POTUS?
this seems sadly accurate
08-11-2017 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by slidey1
Where are you getting this from? Literally COUNTLESS raids have happened? I mean I'm not certain but I feel like "raids" happening again and again in the same location, (Trump Tower no less) would have had some sort of mention in any news cycle? No offense but some of your posts are more and more like all those stupid conspiritard Facebook memes.
i like to think of myself as the most unhinged poster itt and even i'm worried about Our House recently
08-11-2017 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
I think we'd see maybe one strike, then a single-strike response, followed by worldwide civil unrest which is what would wind up destroying the planet.
I agree that the international social fallout would probably be more destructive than the just-fallen bombs themselves


I also really worry about the precedential effect of incorporating nuclear detonation into "conventional" warfare
08-11-2017 , 04:00 PM
A NK missile strike would essentially be used as the reichstag fire, with millions of lives in collateral damage.
08-11-2017 , 04:10 PM
Our House, awesome post.
08-11-2017 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by slidey1
Where are you getting this from? Literally COUNTLESS raids have happened? I mean I'm not certain but I feel like "raids" happening again and again in the same location, (Trump Tower no less) would have had some sort of mention in any news cycle? No offense but some of your posts are more and more like all those stupid conspiritard Facebook memes.
Not exactly at the same location but a lot of raids on Russian oligarchs have happened on Trump properties

https://newrepublic.com/article/1435...rime-syndicate
08-11-2017 , 04:23 PM
Putin could do whatever he wants under Hillary because she'll have no capital with which to stop him. Were there to be a WWIII, the narrative will always be that she must've done something to start it.
08-11-2017 , 04:26 PM
who?
08-11-2017 , 05:09 PM
Troll of all time. Hopefully I did this link ok

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/vicentefoxque/status/896111797186379776
08-11-2017 , 05:13 PM


Fixed. Press quote on my post to see how to do it properly.
08-11-2017 , 06:08 PM
possible military option in Venezuela.

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08-11-2017 , 06:17 PM
re: polls

Rasmussen up to 45 today from 38 last week. Trump gonna Trump.
08-11-2017 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
possible military option in Venezuela.

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what the **** is going on

      
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