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08-10-2017 , 01:01 AM

#51226

th14

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Here is an article about Trump shooting at a gun range with some supporters during the campaign. Here and elsewhere the military academy Trump attended from age 13 to 18 is said to have taught rifling and mortars.

08-10-2017 , 01:18 AM

#51227

JacktheDumb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Does left up = remember and right up = lie? Also does this change for left/right-brained?

One is remembering the other is the creative part, which is the part you would activate to lie, so yes, even though i am not sure anymore which side was what. For Trump it might be special, i wouldnt be sure he even knows he is lying.

08-10-2017 , 01:18 AM

#51228

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

Armed FBI agents breaking in and roaming around your house while you stand there in your jammies has got to make you question your choices. Or at least knock some of the smug off your corrupt face.

Considering some of the **** Manafort's allegedly gotten himself involved in it's probably a nice surprise they're not there to kill you.

08-10-2017 , 01:24 AM

#51229

AllTheCheese

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Quote:

Originally Posted by otatop

Considering some of the **** Manafort's allegedly gotten himself involved in it's probably a nice surprise they're not there to kill you.

Yeah. Can imagine him yelling up to his wife after the door swings opens and the agents flood in, "Honey, you can come out. They're Americans."

08-10-2017 , 01:28 AM

#51230

AllCowsEatGrass

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Quote:

Originally Posted by th14

It looks like he's trying to do Charlton Heston.

08-10-2017 , 01:48 AM

#51231

th14

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Trump in 2012 told a reporter he owns a "H&K .45 and a .38 Smith & Wesson"

in other news Donald sold (April 2016) two ~$800k apartments for $350k/ea to Eric then seems to have claimed it was a fair market value deal, rather than a discounted gift to his son, in order to cheat on taxes:

This Trump real estate deal looks awfully like criminal tax fraud

Quote:

According to New York City property records, Trump paid $13,000 in state and local transfer taxes for these two sales. That is the correct amount for a sale between strangers. But if he paid state and local transfer taxes, that means he didn’t treat the transfers as gifts. And on the real estate forms filed in New York, Trump didn’t check any of the boxes indicating that these were sales between relatives or sales of less than the entire property. It would seem, then, that he treated the transactions as if they were sales for fair market value to a stranger.

Since Trump did not cast the transactions as gifts for state and local tax purposes, it is almost certain that he did not do so for federal gift tax purposes, either. In our combined 40 years of experience as tax lawyers, we are unaware of a situation in which a taxpayer would report a transaction as a fair market value between strangers on the state level (and thus incur real estate taxes) but treat it as a gift at the federal level (and thus incur an additional tax). It’s fair to infer that Trump didn’t follow the rules.

Willful failure to file a tax return, including a gift tax return, is a misdemeanor , punishable by a $25,000 fine, imprisonment of up to one year or both. Fraudulent failure to file — meaning an overt act of evasion — may elevate willful failure to a felony . That carries a fine of up to $100,000, imprisonment of up to five years or both, along with the costs of prosecution.

08-10-2017 , 02:16 AM

#51232

Vagine

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 352

Quote:

Originally Posted by uke_master

ya there is exactly 0% chance jared turns on trump or that mueller tries to get jared to turn on trump

If Jared is anything like his old man I wouldn't be so sure. His dad did not hesitate using his own daughter as leverage.

08-10-2017 , 07:04 AM

#51233

eyebooger

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 59,273

Still annoyed at The Turtle this morning:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...99179522650112

08-10-2017 , 08:03 AM

#51234

Money2Burn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Actually they're going to get overtime soon. I read somewhere that they were limited to 10-hour shifts now.

http://www.westernfarmpress.com/blog...w-overtime-law

I didn't know this. Good for California.

08-10-2017 , 08:06 AM

#51235

BOIDS

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for once i agree with drumpf, mcconnell's spiel about things taking time here in DC is a bollocks excuse for massive failure

08-10-2017 , 08:09 AM

#51236

aflametotheground

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National Enquirer released a smear story on Manafort hours after it was reveled that his home was raided by fbi. Havent seen this before now, maybe its posted before. But lol

08-10-2017 , 08:11 AM

#51237

Money2Burn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Actually they're going to get overtime soon. I read somewhere that they were limited to 10-hour shifts now.

http://www.westernfarmpress.com/blog...w-overtime-law

I was thinking more along the lines of traditional shifts meaning several per day. Unless they are harvesting at night now, you aren't going to be able to work in the fields much longer than 10 hours because there's not enough daylight.

08-10-2017 , 08:27 AM

#51238

NxtWrldChamp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

Or I could erase a bunch of my memory and stick to what you know about Trump (and Russia) instead.

Glad to see the asterisks and exclamations made it into the thread so fast.

Lol at thinking Trump was carrying a gun

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08-10-2017 , 08:40 AM

#51239

Jbrochu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

mcconnell is such a loser, getting appropriately dunked on by donald ****ing trump on twitter. rofl

Ha ha.

List of losers to get dunked on by Trump:

- Jeb
- Marco
- Cruz
- Fattie
- Turtle

08-10-2017 , 08:52 AM

#51240

TiltedDonkey

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sklansky

The North Korean Crisis is apt to end through bribery but of the secret variety. The money won't come from governments but rather from the super rich who want those tax cuts. To get that money Kim must not only stand down, but do it in a way where Trump gets the credit. There is even a small chance that the beginnings of the plan is already being implemented as of weeks ago.

Lol ok.

08-10-2017 , 08:53 AM

#51241

TiltedDonkey

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass

I think the notice for Americans to get the hell out of North Korea about a week ago seems like it could be a pretty grim indicator that the Trump admin has been planning to go to war with NK. Maybe we're going to get to extend the 4th of July pretty soon and have some more bombs bursting in air and redneck cavemen beating their chests and drinking ****ty domestic beer and beating their wives, then grabbing them by the pussies of course.

I think Americans probably should've gotten the hell out of North Korea a while back.

08-10-2017 , 08:57 AM

#51242

TiltedDonkey

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lestat

Are you saying NK currently possesses such technology? If not, it's all the more reason to stop them before they do, imo.

I also don't understand why it's not in the best interest of every other country on earth (including the other nuclear capable super powers) to stop NK. The world is dangerous enough as it is. Why would anyone want another nuclear capable country, which only increases the chances of nuclear holocaust?

It is in everyone's best interest to stop them. The problem is that the costs of stopping them militarily are potentially catastrophic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

http://fortune.com/2017/08/08/immigr...alflow_twitter

Hey Americans - good news, the jobs have returned! This is what you voted for. Now get out there and start filling those $12/hour, 10-hour shifts doing backbreaking work in 100°+ heat with no benefits!

http://abc30.com/politics/valley-far...-deal/1717165/

If you drove through the Central Valley last year - you'd know there were Trump signs EVERYWHERE. From my understanding they were mostly pissed about the damn gubmint telling them how to use their water in a historic drought. I guess they're learning they got sold a bill of goods faster than most. But hey lock her up though, and those liberal tears sure tasted good for a while.

Meh, maybe we can forgive them. They needed those tears for sustenance during the historic drought.

08-10-2017 , 09:03 AM

#51243

BOIDS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbrochu

Ha ha.

List of losers to get dunked on by Trump:

- Jeb
- Marco
- Cruz
- Fattie
- Turtle

drumpf took mooch's business and marriage from him, he should be top of the list

08-10-2017 , 09:11 AM

#51244

champstark

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In a new poll, half of Republicans say they would support postponing the 2020 election if Trump proposed it

08-10-2017 , 09:17 AM

#51245

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Money2Burn

are you kidding me? sunrise is before 7am and sunset isn't until about 8pm this time of year. math, how does it work

08-10-2017 , 09:21 AM

#51246

DVaut1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

In a new poll, half of Republicans say they would support postponing the 2020 election if Trump proposed it

Quote:

Of course, our survey is only measuring reactions to a hypothetical situation. Were Trump to seriously propose postponing the election, there would be a torrent of opposition, which would most likely include prominent Republicans. Financial markets would presumably react negatively to the potential for political instability. And this is to say nothing of the various legal and constitutional complications that would immediately become clear. Citizens would almost certainly form their opinions amid such tumult, which does not at all resemble the context in which our survey was conducted.

Two things:

1. why even bother with the pretense of 'postponing' the election? Ask Trump voters: should we even bother with elections anymore? Would you be willing to accept any election where Trump was declared a loser? If so the context of postponing the election until 'voter fraud' is fixed is just taking the right-wing frame/excuses at face value
2. yet again another strange reassurance to readers that some vague norms, systemic factors, and rebellious Republicans would probably put a stop to it

08-10-2017 , 09:35 AM

#51247

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

In a new poll, half of Republicans say they would support postponing the 2020 election if Trump proposed it

They also have a favorable rating of a brutal dictator because he's Trump's buddy. This comes as no surprise.

08-10-2017 , 09:45 AM

#51248

Money2Burn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

are you kidding me? sunrise is before 7am and sunset isn't until about 8pm this time of year. math, how does it work

That would be 13 hours not including a break for lunch, which isn't much longer than 10 hours at the longest period of daylight during the year and relative to shiftwork that covers a 24 hour day. I'm no Sklanski, but I think I can handle that math.

08-10-2017 , 10:02 AM

#51249

raradevils

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

In a new poll, half of Republicans say they would support postponing the 2020 election if Trump proposed it

Is that any different than this poll?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...term-for-obama

Last edited by raradevils; 08-10-2017 at 10:06 AM. Reason: oops i shouldn't show an opposition to the majority as it paints a picture that I supported the orange man.

08-10-2017 , 10:05 AM

#51250

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Money2Burn

you said there's not enough daylight now to be out in the fields harvesting longer than 10 hrs, which is incorrect. unless i'm missing something here?

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