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08-08-2017 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
Looking forward to Trump acknowledging that addiction is a medical issue and not a criminal one.
Lol, and I'm sure he'll promote education and treatment rather than prosecution and incarceration as the solution.
08-08-2017 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
Leakers, amirite?
Leaker-in-chief works on multiple levels
08-08-2017 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
CNN just reported that one of his retweets contained classified info and anonymous sources.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ushpmg00000067

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President Donald Trump on Tuesday promoted a news article that cited information from anonymous officials, a practice he regularly decries — except when it benefits him.

Trump retweeted several posts from the Twitter account for Fox News’ morning show “Fox & Friends,” which he watches and tweets about regularly. One of the Fox tweets linked to a story about U.S. spies spotting North Korean cruise missiles. The article cites “U.S. officials with knowledge of the latest intelligence in the region,” including one that “requested anonymity to discuss sensitive information.”

It’s common to cite anonymous officials when reporting on intelligence matters, especially if information is classified. But Trump has regularly criticized the practice, as well as leaks of information in general, and has pledged to make the issue a priority for his administration.

United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley was asked about the story during an appearance on “Fox & Friends” Tuesday, but said she could not comment on classified information and that it was “a shame” the story had been published.

“I can’t talk about anything that’s classified, and if that’s in the newspaper, that’s a shame,” she said. “I have no reason to comment on it.”
We're about to see journalists getting hit with subpoenas, and perhaps even jail time, for reporting "leaks" and here is Donald ****ing Trump doing exactly what he's having Sessions crack down on. It's like every day you think he can't top the hypocritical douchebaggery of yesterday and then he goes and does it.
08-08-2017 , 10:38 AM
Is Duterte coming to this?
08-08-2017 , 10:38 AM
Officially beating the dead horse on the less/fewer thing:

While there's no parallel we can draw with "more" since it's a quirk of English that the word is the same for quantities and items, you can take a slightly different angle and look at the rules for much/many, which people pretty much follow reflexively, and I don't think you could find anyone who would defend saying "there's too many sugar in my coffee" or "why are there so much people here?" Same thing goes for the use of little/few.

So I think almost everyone would agree that there's objectively correct rules for much/many and little/few, and less/fewer is almost a direct parallel of that. So, I guess what I'm saying is that even if a couple of grammar dudes "made up" the rule a couple hundred years ago, it's because...they should have.
08-08-2017 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
It's like every day you think he can't top the hypocritical douchebaggery of yesterday and then he goes and does it.
tbh it's more like every day I fully expect him to do it and then he does it.
08-08-2017 , 10:42 AM
Guys, stfu about grammar pls

no1curr

Grammar nits are the worst type of forum posters and yall are just taking it to a whole new level
08-08-2017 , 10:48 AM
Trump probably leaked the info to Fox News. If he is regularly meeting with Hannity, etc, there is no way he isn't leaking stuff.
08-08-2017 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
Guys, stfu about grammar pls

no1curr

Grammar nits are the worst type of forum posters and yall are just taking it to a whole new level
y'all
08-08-2017 , 11:23 AM
is incarceration cheaper than medical care?

including neighborhood effects, I think not
08-08-2017 , 11:29 AM
Just saw Eric Prince on MSNBC. I can't believe they are seriously debating whether or not to send blackwater to Afghanistan. Seriously, wtf is wrong with these people.
08-08-2017 , 11:30 AM
Fewer/less isn't nittery, that's pretty basic grammar.
08-08-2017 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
It's not proper grammar:















But that's just a rule reverse-engineered from actual usage. If I ask "why?" then the only answer is "because that's how people speak English". But that goes equally well as an answer for why less is an OK substitution for fewer in many other situations.



I'm not saying this as a general prescriptive v descriptive grammar thing as I tend to come down more on the prescriptive side. Fewer v less is kind of unique among prescriptive rules in having just been made up by some guy and not ever having reflected how the language was properly used.







So? It's still countable.


Lol k


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08-08-2017 , 12:15 PM
The sessions announcement that hes going to go after journalists and their sources with subpoenas is pretty bad. It shows how the boundaries against democratic institutions are constantly being pushed back. Now journalists and whistleblowers are going to be more reserved in their leaking and reporting and a new normal is set until next time.

I think also the fact that the white house had set together a group that was supposed to discredit the special council is another part in the obstruction of justice pattern.
08-08-2017 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kre8tive
Lol, and I'm sure he'll promote education and treatment rather than prosecution and incarceration as the solution.
we've got betsy devos and tom price on it, dw


Spoiler:
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Price "touted faith-based programs while showing less support for medication-assisted programs in which addicts are weaned off heroin with other opioids like Suboxone and methadone," the Charleston Gazette-Mail said. politifact
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"I applaud the President for convening today's listening session, and for establishing the Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis as a productive first step to better serve those suffering from addiction and the victims impacted by this crisis." Dept of Ed


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The Commission will be chaired by Governor Chris Christie and will study ways to combat and treat the scourge of drug abuse, addiction, and the opioid crisis, which was responsible for more than 50,000 deaths in 2015 and has caused families and communities across America to endure significant pain and suffering. whitehouse
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Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions have repeatedly offered up as solutions to the opioid crisis, including building a wall on the Mexican border, expanding the use of mandatory minimum sentencing for drug crimes, and seizing more cash and property from individuals suspected of drug crimes.

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The commission, led by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, states that the goals of such a declaration would be to “force Congress to focus on funding” and to “awaken every American to this simple fact: if this scourge has not found you or your family yet, without bold action by everyone, it soon will.”

wapo
wow, fear monger much? good lord....

Last edited by iamnotawerewolf; 08-08-2017 at 12:31 PM.
08-08-2017 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
this grammar discussion is still going on this morning. wtf.
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
Guys, stfu about grammar pls

no1curr

Grammar nits are the worst type of forum posters and yall are just taking it to a whole new level
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Fewer/less isn't nittery, that's pretty basic grammar.
This
08-08-2017 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by poconoder
It just occurred to me that one of those votes was from Russia.

PROOF OF COLLUSION!!!
stfu
08-08-2017 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Irrelevant. That is not the current rule.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/usage/less-or-fewer

All of your "wrong sounding" sentences are grammatically wrong.
It appears to be the current "rule" for dollars at least:

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Originally Posted by Your Link
Use less when you’re referring to something that can’t be counted or doesn’t have a plural (e.g. money, air, time, music, rain).
It's not a well-written guide, since as written, it seems to imply that all ways of referring to money should use 'less'. But it clearly just means the word 'money', since dollars can be counted and 'dollar' has a plural. Formally, 'euro' doesn't have a plural, so this would imply that something can cost less euro but must cost fewer dollars.

The whole distinction is just an aesthetic preference that's been half-codified, there's no reason to take it seriously. And that's if you've already made the decision to treat prescriptive grammar in general seriously.

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Fewer/less isn't ... grammar.
08-08-2017 , 01:45 PM
After the last few pages I think we can all agree that we need the vacation to have fewer/less* days.

*delete as applicable
08-08-2017 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by aflametotheground
The sessions announcement that hes going to go after journalists and their sources with subpoenas is pretty bad. It shows how the boundaries against democratic institutions are constantly being pushed back. Now journalists and whistleblowers are going to be more reserved in their leaking and reporting and a new normal is set until next time.
U.S. Justice Department not looking to charge journalists for leaks

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Originally Posted by aflametotheground
I think also the fact that the white house had set together a group that was supposed to discredit the special council is another part in the obstruction of justice pattern.
Trump's lawyers sound like they're getting nervous
The reboot appears to be happening on several levels as Trump’s team work to prevent any additional attacks on Mueller, Comey, or other people central to the investigation, that might be perceived as attempts to obstruct the Russia probe. While Trump has accused Mueller of conducting a “witch hunt,” Cobb notably told Politico in a recent interview that he had “a very respectful and professional relationship with Bob Mueller [and] I think very highly of him.”
08-08-2017 , 01:49 PM
i think "less than" in math class messes people up on it
08-08-2017 , 02:25 PM
lol

https://news.vice.com/story/trump-fo...ws-white-house

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Twice a day since the beginning of the Trump administration, a special folder is prepared for the president. The first document is prepared around 9:30 a.m. and the follow-up around 4:30 p.m. Former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and former Press Secretary Sean Spicer both wanted the privilege of delivering the 20- to 25-page packet to President Trump personally, White House sources say.

These sensitive papers, described to VICE News by three current and former White House officials, are not top-secret intelligence or updates on legislative initiatives. Instead, the folders are filled with screenshots of positive cable news chyrons (those lower-third headlines and crawls), admiring tweets, transcripts of fawning TV interviews, praise-filled news stories, and sometimes just pictures of Trump on TV looking powerful.

One White House official said the only feedback the White House communications shop, which prepares the folder, has ever gotten in all these months is: “It needs to be more ****ing positive.” That’s why some in the White House ruefully refer to the packet as “the Propaganda Document.”
08-08-2017 , 02:28 PM
I wouldn't object if Trump put together a uniformed Self-Esteem Team a la MGS3-era Revolver Ocelot.
08-08-2017 , 02:43 PM
Good god what a whiny ****ing baby
08-08-2017 , 02:44 PM
DRUMPF really is a whiny ****ing pussy.

      
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