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08-04-2017 , 09:46 PM
Hmm, scratch the Russian backchannel, comrades. Let's do a back nine channel!
08-04-2017 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Haha Bollings sending cock pics while railing against Weiner imo.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...15b1be6d65?hd6
OMG please be true! This jackass is the slimiest of the slimy. I like Tucker Carlson better than this asswipe.
08-04-2017 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Judge Jeanine and others on Fox are making a roundabout threat at Mueller, similar to Trump's red line for finances, only worse.

"If we see indictments come down on say a family member or someone just to get at Trump, you're going to see an uprising of his supporters."
Trump retweeted this:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1503
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18 U.S. Code § 1503 - Influencing or injuring officer or juror generally

[...] or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).
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(b) The punishment for an offense under this section is— [...]
(3) in any other case, imprisonment for not more than 10 years, a fine under this title, or both.
08-04-2017 , 10:13 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/893651527843196928

Someone itt had pointed out this might come up.
08-04-2017 , 10:14 PM
I am confirmed #TRIGGERED by the far left guy on Fox and Friends. I am completely unable to explain this.
08-04-2017 , 10:15 PM
Alan D. going completely off the reservation and going full trumpkin can be explained only by Epstein Island IMO
08-04-2017 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by th14
Trump retweeted this:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1503
Meh. I don't think her comments are out of bounds. She's making a prediction based on emotions she's seen. Not attempting to organize or encourage "uprisings". Certainly no fan of Pirro or any of the FOX crowd, but I don't see these comments as worthy of raising an eyebrow.
08-04-2017 , 10:25 PM
DJT down to a new record low aggregate approval rating on the 538 tracker, 36.9 percent.
08-04-2017 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/893651527843196928

Someone itt had pointed out this might come up.
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Originally Posted by 425kid
How do you find an impartial grand jury to investigate a reality show POTUS who is covered on tv 24/7? Do they have to be politically impartial? A random DC pool is like 90% D and 50% AA. Going to tilt Trump so much
Easiest prediction ever.

Seriously though it's pretty dumb that juries for political crimes in federal office will always be composed of DC residents. I'm not complaining about it happening here, but DC residents don't have more knowledge or more skin in the game than someone in Seattle, SLC, Texas, or anywhere else in the country. But article III obviously wasn't designed for these fringe cases so complaints like these by Dershowitz that Mueller is doing something shady are ridiculous. He has no choice if he wants to prosecute Flynn for being a foreign agent or Kushner for lying on forms.
08-04-2017 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Seriously what the f*ck was going on at Fox News? I feel like an expose on the years at Fox would have the same feel as one about a rock band on tour.
It's a self selecting sample. Only a complete moral vacuum would choose to work for fox news.
08-04-2017 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Alan D. going completely off the reservation and going full trumpkin can be explained only by Epstein Island IMO
08-04-2017 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
DJT down to a new record low aggregate approval rating on the 538 tracker, 36.9 percent.
Really dont think these kinds of short term swings are meaningful, but this tweet by Nate kinda is


The continued downward trend cripples all that punditry talk that Trump's base is with him to the end. I mean I'm sure Fox&Friends+20-25% of the country probably are, but the "intellectuals" of the right who care about reputation and legacy are laying the groundwork to jump ship.

Guys like Eli Lake have gone from "The leaks are the issue" to "Congress usurping Trump on Russia is good, but leaks are still bad". And senators like Murkowski, Collins, McCain, Flake, and to a lesser extent Manchin and Heitkamp aren't worried that ignoring or criticizing Trump will cost them re-election. At some point Trump's scandals will turn the process into a snowball. Approval dips, Journalist/senator/pundit starts distancing and/or criticizing Trump and approval dips again as the people who use them as a guidepost follow their views. And the cycle repeats.

It's really hard to see how Trump stops this cycle now. He can't pass legislation, he can't control his whitehouse or his twitter feed. All he has left is throwing red meat to his base and holding rallies. But those are acts of desperation not acts of redemption that will pull people back in.
08-04-2017 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 425kid
Easiest prediction ever.

Seriously though it's pretty dumb that juries for political crimes in federal office will always be composed of DC residents. I'm not complaining about it happening here, but DC residents don't have more knowledge or more skin in the game than someone in Seattle, SLC, Texas, or anywhere else in the country. But article III obviously wasn't designed for these fringe cases so complaints like these by Dershowitz that Mueller is doing something shady are ridiculous. He has no choice if he wants to prosecute Flynn for being a foreign agent or Kushner for lying on forms.
Yeah but it's not more dumb than the electoral college or giving the same representation in the Senate to Wyoming and California (which btw is infinitely more than DC gets) or any number of structural oddities in our constitution that have benefitted Trump so if any Trumpkins are upset about this particular case they can **** right off.
08-04-2017 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
Meh. I don't think her comments are out of bounds. She's making a prediction based on emotions she's seen. Not attempting to organize or encourage "uprisings". Certainly no fan of Pirro or any of the FOX crowd, but I don't see these comments as worthy of raising an eyebrow.
Remember when people were asking Trump if he would accept the results of the election and he said only if he wins? Around the same time, he was also asked what would happen if he didn't win. He threw out an "I think you'd have riots" dogwhistle to his supporters.

The flashback is to point out that your statement just now is pretty much an exact copy of Trump apologists when they were defending his riots statement.
08-04-2017 , 11:21 PM
what about the story trump tells about how he talked to the leader of a big biker gang and they convinced him to allow a one-day "purge", like the movie the purge, in order to get the crime under control
08-04-2017 , 11:25 PM
Honestly, it is probably pretty hard for all these people at the country club, at their kids $35,000/year prep school, etc. I am sure they enjoy the cover of their faux conservative intellectualism and Trump is a real nuisance to that. And god only knows what it is like for them to have to deal with the boy king. It would take a lot not to be gossiping and joking like crazy.
08-04-2017 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Remember when people were asking Trump if he would accept the results of the election and he said only if he wins? Around the same time, he was also asked what would happen if he didn't win. He threw out an "I think you'd have riots" dogwhistle to his supporters.

The flashback is to point out that your statement just now is pretty much an exact copy of Trump apologists when they were defending his riots statement.
Riot has a different connotation than uproar or uprising. If someone asks a pundit "what do you think would happen if a Trump family member was indicted" you can't expect them to respond with "no comment". And Pirro is not the president or a candidate. In America do we expect someone to arrest her for saying this? Would be a first wouldn't it?
08-04-2017 , 11:30 PM
An observation and a legal question...

1) If you are a complicit GOP, you surely aren't enjoying the news that Muller opened up shop in DC. You might even fear what Mueller knows so much that you either come forward with whatever (little) you know, or even switch sides against Trump.

2) Procedure dictates that Mueller send his recommendations to the Department of Justice when the investigation is complete. What's his move if the investigation reveals a corrupt DoJ?
08-04-2017 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 425kid
Easiest prediction ever.

Seriously though it's pretty dumb that juries for political crimes in federal office will always be composed of DC residents. I'm not complaining about it happening here, but DC residents don't have more knowledge or more skin in the game than someone in Seattle, SLC, Texas, or anywhere else in the country. But article III obviously wasn't designed for these fringe cases so complaints like these by Dershowitz that Mueller is doing something shady are ridiculous. He has no choice if he wants to prosecute Flynn for being a foreign agent or Kushner for lying on forms.

washington d.c. was hillary clinton's BEST county, she was +86.8 there

clearly trump or anyone associated with him cannot be tried in washington d.c. ever. sham trial! very bad!
08-05-2017 , 12:00 AM
I hope Donald "What have you got to lose?!" Trump enjoys testifying before a DC grand jury.
08-05-2017 , 12:09 AM
08-05-2017 , 12:14 AM
I promise you this: There will be no riots or uprisings if Trump or his family are put in jail. There may be a few puny protests and there may be some lone gun nuts murdering people, but any action with more than 100 people will be a celebration.
08-05-2017 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
Riot has a different connotation than uproar or uprising. If someone asks a pundit "what do you think would happen if a Trump family member was indicted" you can't expect them to respond with "no comment". And Pirro is not the president or a candidate. In America do we expect someone to arrest her for saying this? Would be a first wouldn't it?
Black people riot. White people have uprisings.
08-05-2017 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by th14
08-05-2017 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
I hope Donald "What have you got to lose?!" Trump enjoys testifying before a DC grand jury.
If I were a cartoonist, a good one would be Flynn and Manafort coming out of Mueller's office, each carrying...

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