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08-04-2017 , 11:57 AM

#50551

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dinopoker

If the hacking of the election is viewed as a 'hostile act' then aiding and abetting that is pretty clearly treason.

They didn't hack the election.

08-04-2017 , 11:57 AM

#50552

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

Looking at the whole story, this isn't some kind of mixup. Trump Tower created the dispute and is telling SS to get lost and "find another building" while SS is saying even though they're 50 floors away from the Trump office it's their duty to protect the first family and they still plan on working things out.

It really appears that we're peeking at Trump's paranoia again. He doesn't want prying eyes near his family's office, and Secret Service may have Clinton donors among the ranks.

Well plus the SS are sworn law enforcement officers. If they witness a crime I believe they're duty bound to report it, and they sure as **** aren't signing any NDAs or loyalty pledges.

08-04-2017 , 12:02 PM

#50553

suzzer99

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Trump leaves for a 17-day vacation today. Confirmed Sim gone haywire.

08-04-2017 , 12:09 PM

#50554

ScreaminAsian

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what a piece of ****

08-04-2017 , 12:09 PM

#50555

dinopoker

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

Think this is the correct take. I'd feel confident he'd get crushed in some hypothetical universe where the election was tomorrow. Give him two years get the media back into horse race mode and reintroduce the specters of Hillary Clinton, a new Democratic opponent, and brown people continuing to live and come to America and add in the powers of the federal government now at his disposal and it's harder to guess.

Meh, this presupposes that the sh*t show that is the Trump presidency stays at this level all the way, or improves to some extent. Both are highly unlikely.

I think in a few years we'll all be looking at the early part of 2017 as the actual high point of Trump's tenure.

08-04-2017 , 12:10 PM

#50556

dinopoker

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Originally Posted by maulaga58

Trump has unemployment at a 16 year low. wages keep steadily rising with growth every month hes been in office Trump isn't hurting the economy Their are a number of things to bash trump about the economy isn't 1 of them.

Please list a single policy or legislation Trump has enacted that has benefited the economy. 'Cause the last time I checked he's done precisely zero.

08-04-2017 , 12:16 PM

#50557

suzzer99

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Whoever runs against Trump in 2020 needs to save this for the right zinger debate moment.

08-04-2017 , 12:20 PM

#50558

DisGunBGud

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I love the Trumpkins that spike the football over unemployment numbers and the stock market. O did it for 8 years, we call those long term gains. Y'all excited about a few months short term when anyone with a brain knows the long term outcome is extremely murky and dangerous for this administration.

I know facts tend to mean nothing to you clowns but we both know this administration hasn't passed any meaningful legislation yet to have any sort of impact. All the gains you are spiking the football over still go to Obama. Scoreboard simpletons.

08-04-2017 , 12:21 PM

#50559

uDevil

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Do we know that the leaks of Trump's phone conversation transcripts came from US sources and not Mexico or Australia?

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08-04-2017 , 12:25 PM

#50560

kre8tive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dinopoker

Please list a single policy or legislation Trump has enacted that has benefited the economy. 'Cause the last time I checked he's done precisely zero.

He's pulled the US out of the "job killing" Paris Accords.

He has no problem killing the planet though.

08-04-2017 , 12:31 PM

#50561

otatop

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Originally Posted by uDevil

Do we know that the leaks of Trump's phone conversation transcripts came from US sources and not Mexico or Australia?

At least one of them had a signature of a general on the NSC, so they're US leaks.

08-04-2017 , 12:40 PM

#50562

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise

Good news. I don't know what technically explains why the economy turned around so quickly after the election, but it's hard to miss the fact that it happened before anything had been done policy-wise. Perhaps everyone is just optimistic to see a more business-friendly environment returning.

And this is one of the smarter conservatives on CP, who doesn't even like Trump. Sigh.

08-04-2017 , 12:41 PM

#50563

DBLK

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A little bit OT:

I'm just reading the history of the five Mafia families of New York. It was interesting to read about Roy Cohn + Gambino/Genovese role in the construction of the Trump Tower and other Trump projects in New York.

08-04-2017 , 12:48 PM

#50564

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Originally Posted by kre8tive

He's pulled the US out of the "job killing" Paris Accords.

He has no problem killing the planet though.

And that led to a sudden influx in hiring in which industry, exactly?

08-04-2017 , 12:53 PM

#50565

uDevil

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Originally Posted by otatop

At least one of them had a signature of a general on the NSC, so they're US leaks.

Thanks!

08-04-2017 , 12:53 PM

#50566

simplicitus

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Originally Posted by Money2Burn

Don't know about these specific instances, but many law firms will allow associates to leave to clerk for federal judges and the associate will not collect a salary from the firm, but will get a bonus when he or she returns after the clerkship is up. I would guess something similar is going on here. Obviously it's different because these guys are likely partners at their firms, so their spots are probably more secure.

They can likely go back to their firms or other firms after, because they are very good lawyers. It would not be explicit, however. There is 0% chance they are still being paid by their firms in any way. That could create a conflict of interest if the 1000 lawyer firm seeks to represent any adverse party and is probably illegal under DOJ ethics guidelines anyway.

08-04-2017 , 12:59 PM

#50567

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

so apparently cosmopolitan is a bigly popular word with the white supremacists.

http://thinkprogress.org/stephen-mil...-supremacists/

It's incredible that my frankly bizarre hobbyhorse of knowing the dumb **** racists say to each other has like, weekly watercooler conversation applications.

More evidence that none of this really happened and I'm dreaming it. Who the **** wants to live in a world where "familiarity with Soviet antisemitism" becomes a trait you need to follow the news?

08-04-2017 , 01:08 PM

#50568

suzzer99

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08-04-2017 , 01:13 PM

#50569

poconoder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Trump leaves for a 17-day vacation today. Confirmed Sim gone haywire.

Major renovations on west wing being done. Staffers not joining Trump will work from Eisenhower EOB instead. These were approved by Obama who then refused to allow them to take place during his term in office. This was his parting gift to Hillary, who unexpectantly didn't have to deal with it.

08-04-2017 , 01:17 PM

#50570

Huehuecoyotl

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I didn't know that the poem on the Statue of Liberty was like sand in the craw of white nationalists.

08-04-2017 , 01:20 PM

#50571

TheHip41

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Originally Posted by maulaga58

the wage uptick is a change. also the under employed remaining steady is doing better under trump it was rising under Obama.

are you seriously trying to argue that Trump is doing a better job than Obama?

if so, you are in for a bad time

08-04-2017 , 01:23 PM

#50572

Stinky Stu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maulaga58

It will take at least a year (or two) to determine what he's done for/to the economy.

He's also the guy who has always said that low unemployment numbers are fake. Until now, of course.