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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

08-04-2017 , 09:33 AM
According to Cenk at TYT and Wall street journal a new guy Greg Andres that recently joined the Mueller team is a super heavy hitter that would never have joined the team if it wasnt a very big deal going on with strong indications.
08-04-2017 , 09:39 AM
Fewer jobs added Jan-Jul this year than 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, or 2016. By a very wide margin.

No doubt the pace can't keep up as we reach full employment, but the drop off from even 1 or 2 years ago is pretty precipitous.
08-04-2017 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JordanIB
Fewer jobs added Jan-Jul this year than 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, or 2016. By a very wide margin.

No doubt the pace can't keep up as we reach full employment, but the drop off from even 1 or 2 years ago is pretty precipitous.
That's fake news. Even CNN is applauding the job growth under Trump: http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/04/news...ort/index.html
08-04-2017 , 10:08 AM
question for legal minds itt:

i see a lot posted about these lawyers who have taken positions w the special counsel foregoing big salaries in the private sector- my gf's mom mentioned/suggested that maybe the firms they used to work for are still compensating them to some extent, possibly as a bit of an incentive to take the time away in order for the firm to gain some prestige by having a partner/member who has worked in a government investigation of this magnitude.

how likely is it that some of them are still being paid by their (former) employers? or are they required by law/ethical reasons to completely sever ties for the time being?
08-04-2017 , 10:15 AM
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The msm sucks at putting the right context to hob numbers, and most people dont read past the headlines. If the trend in growth decline doesnt level off at the current growth rate the ue rate will turn the wrong way. Ive heard estimates that job growth of 80-150k is required to keep pace with population growth, and we are getting very close to that level.

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08-04-2017 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
That's fake news. Even CNN is applauding the job growth under Trump: http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/04/news...ort/index.html
not exactly. jan-jul 2013-2016 all saw larger job growth than 2017, and 2012 is only barely below 2017 if the july projection holds true

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0..._view=net_1mth

but i wouldn't expect a worthless ****posting trump supporter like yourself to honestly represent the data.

FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS DADDY IS JUST WONDERFUL
08-04-2017 , 10:19 AM
regardless, the idea that job growth in 2017 has anything at all do with any of trump's "policies" or actions so far is just ****ing lol

thanks obama!
08-04-2017 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
question for legal minds itt:

i see a lot posted about these lawyers who have taken positions w the special counsel foregoing big salaries in the private sector- my gf's mom mentioned/suggested that maybe the firms they used to work for are still compensating them to some extent, possibly as a bit of an incentive to take the time away in order for the firm to gain some prestige by having a partner/member who has worked in a government investigation of this magnitude.

how likely is it that some of them are still being paid by their (former) employers? or are they required by law/ethical reasons to completely sever ties for the time being?
Don't know about these specific instances, but many law firms will allow associates to leave to clerk for federal judges and the associate will not collect a salary from the firm, but will get a bonus when he or she returns after the clerkship is up. I would guess something similar is going on here. Obviously it's different because these guys are likely partners at their firms, so their spots are probably more secure.
08-04-2017 , 10:29 AM
Trump has unemployment at a 16 year low. wages keep steadily rising with growth every month hes been in office Trump isn't hurting the economy Their are a number of things to bash trump about the economy isn't 1 of them.
08-04-2017 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by maulaga58
Trump has unemployment at a 16 year low. wages keep steadily rising with growth every month hes been in office Trump isn't hurting the economy Their are a number of things to bash trump about the economy isn't 1 of them.
Obama has employment at a 16 year low. I agree that we've seen nothing so far to indicate Trump is a disaster for the economy, but what kind of credit should Trump be getting for numbers that fall on the trend line from Jan 2013 to Dec 2016?
08-04-2017 , 10:46 AM
Can someone explain how CNN has a headline that says "US has added more than a million jobs since President took office"?

The BLS numbers add up to 850K for January through July. And of course, he wasn't in office for 19 days of January.

Edit: NM. My formula wasn't summing Jun and Jul because of the (P) in the cell. That means my earlier statement was also a bit exaggerated. Not every Obama year outpaced 2017. But most of them did.
08-04-2017 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by maulaga58
Trump has unemployment at a 16 year low. wages keep steadily rising with growth every month hes been in office Trump isn't hurting the economy Their are a number of things to bash trump about the economy isn't 1 of them.
Everyone but the most drooling of morons knows that trump just hasn't done anything one way or the other that meaningfully affects the economies trendlines.
08-04-2017 , 11:18 AM
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12000000

Here's the actual data set on employment.

Good for Trump that "he" added a million jobs Jan to July. Obama did that several times, but it's true, using these completely arbitrary starting and stopping points we are plus over a million jobs right now.

Wait, aren't all of these employment statistics fake news?
08-04-2017 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Yuv
Anyone who read the two interviews transcript (the one on WSJ and I think NYT) can't possibly believe he should be anywhere near the nuclear football.
At least we know he could spiral it perfectly through a tire.
08-04-2017 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by maulaga58
Trump has unemployment at a 16 year low. wages keep steadily rising with growth every month hes been in office Trump isn't hurting the economy Their are a number of things to bash trump about the economy isn't 1 of them.
Remember when you were scoffing at this exact same metric to measure job growth when liberals pointed at how great a job Obama did at getting us out of the recession? The EXACT same metric? Remember how all you could talk about was U-5?

Bro this is just more outcomes of great work done by the Kenyan Muslim who you hate, and you're not even allowed to praise it since you et al spent a full year dismissing this metric as bogus.
08-04-2017 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Obama has employment at a 16 year low. I agree that we've seen nothing so far to indicate Trump is a disaster for the economy, but what kind of credit should Trump be getting for numbers that fall on the trend line from Jan 2013 to Dec 2016?
the wage uptick is a change. also the under employed remaining steady is doing better under trump it was rising under Obama.
08-04-2017 , 11:30 AM
starting a war with an already adversarial press is probably bad for their leak control, ****ing idiots.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced Friday that the Department of Justice is considering subpoenaing journalists in order to determine who in the Trump administration is leaking classified information.

The attorney general made the announcement alongside Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, as leaks continue to pile up under the Trump administration, and the president continues to be publicly irritated with them.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/04/se...ecurity-leaks/
08-04-2017 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawnmower Man
This is the same city from Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution show where he attempted to get better meals for schoolkids and to teach these pigs how to feed themselves. They tried to run him out of town.
Through my work I volunteered at an LA public school a little while after Oliver had helped revamped the menu. I'm assuming what I saw was the result. All kids K-6 got the same packaged lunch - a calzone, mixed green salad, and some kind of pear dessert.

Out of 100 or so Kindergartners and 1st graders I saw one of them touching the salad. The dressing packet was pretty challenging for them even if they wanted to eat it. Maybe 5 touched the pear dessert. Most took a few bites of the calzone, which would have been a decent meal for an adult - then threw the rest away.

I watched just K and 1st fill up two 40-gallon trash cans with uneaten food. Imagine that -
every day, for all the grades, for 500 elementary schools around LA. Some of the lunches weren't even opened. I asked the janitor if they saved those, she said no. What kind of message is it sending those kids to see all that food go into the trash every day? I only hope someone was sneaking it to the homeless or for pet slop or something.

I'm not saying it's all Oliver's fault - most of that stuff comes down to execution, and clearly LAUSD had no interest in actually making it work. Somewhere along the line someone made the decision that one-size-fits-all for K-6, which is ludicrous. The staggering level of indifference to all that wasted food is the part that still blows my mind.
08-04-2017 , 11:40 AM
so apparently cosmopolitan is a bigly popular word with the white supremacists.

http://thinkprogress.org/stephen-mil...-supremacists/
08-04-2017 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by maulaga58
Trump has unemployment at a 16 year low. wages keep steadily rising with growth every month hes been in office Trump isn't hurting the economy Their are a number of things to bash trump about the economy isn't 1 of them.
I'd love to see a heat graph of mentions of labor force participation rate on conservative media before and after Jan 2017.

Pretty sure those words together are just gibberish to chiefsplanet by now.
08-04-2017 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by maulaga58
the wage uptick is a change.
Wage growth is described in the CNN article as "sluggish" and the WaPo article about the same report as "tepid." The WaPo has a BLS graph which shows wage growth about the same as 2015 and lower than 2016.
08-04-2017 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
we aren't at war with russia, so the traitor word isn't quite right.
If the hacking of the election is viewed as a 'hostile act' then aiding and abetting that is pretty clearly treason.

I still equate it to the 'Red Dawn' scenario. If Russia had invaded the US and installed their puppet President with guns and tanks, then anyone who supported him would be a traitor. Which is potentially what they did in this case, except here they used computers and Internet trolls instead of guns and tanks. Same result though, and the people who helped them should still be considered traitors.
08-04-2017 , 11:54 AM
08-04-2017 , 11:55 AM
Haven't you all figured out yet that all data that supports us is good and all data the doesn't is fake?

Some of you just like to argue into a brick wall.
08-04-2017 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
If the hacking of the election is viewed as a 'hostile act' then aiding and abetting that is pretty clearly treason.

I still equate it to the 'Red Dawn' scenario. If Russia had invaded the US and installed their puppet President with guns and tanks, then anyone who supported him would be a traitor. Which is potentially what they did in this case, except here they used computers and Internet trolls instead of guns and tanks. Same result though, and the people who helped them should still be considered traitors.
What's the word for someone who wants to destroy democracy from within? Because anyone who still supports Trump is that too.

      
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