Ah its the 5ive guy. Buddy, i dont think im doing anything like that. There are a few reasons why the far right wing populist/nationalis parties popped up all over europe the past 40ish years but the most central reason is immigration. This goes under the new big political fault line called Globalization.

NYT has an article about this where some nice trends are visible: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...a-hungary.html

Also a reference to a study is made in a washington post opine ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.3a5384f556c0 ):
"In fact, one statistical analysis of European Union countries found that more immigrants invariably means more populists. According to the study, if you extrapolate from current trends, “as the percentage of immigrants approaches approximately 22 percent, the percentage of right-wing populist voters exceeds 50 percent.” Hostility to immigration has been a core theme of every one of these populist parties."


Link to the study, pay special attention to the lowermost bolded text:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1612.00270v2.pdf

Among the central tenets of globalization is free migration of labor. Although much has been written about its benefits, little is known about the limitations of globalization, including how immigration affects the anti-globalist sentiment.Analyzing polls data, we find that over the last three years in a group of EU countries affected by the recent migrant crisis, the percentage of right-wing (RW) populist voters in a given country depends on the prevalence of immigrants in this country's population and the total immigration inflow into the entire EU. The latter is likely due to the EU resembling a supranational state, where the lack of inner borders causes that "somebody else's problem" easily turns into "my problem". We further find that the increase in the percentage of RW voters substantially surpasses the immigration inflow, implying that if this process continues, RW populism may democratically prevail and eventually lead to a demise of globalization. We present evidence for tipping points in relation to the rise of RW populism. Finally, we model these empirical findings using a complex network framework wherein the success of globalization largely rests on the balance between immigration and immigrant integration.



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So im a bit worried about what will happen in the future wrt immigration. What i would not do is to downplay what political effects it can have. When people are voting or running for public office out of strong feelings of fear then extreme things can eventually happen. Theres no reasons to pretend that immigration is just roses.

Democrats do make a huge mistake in assuming that immigrants and their families will necessarily hold the same political views as the rest of the party. Most migrants and minorities tend to be religious people, lean socially conservative, and vote accordingly. Combine that with right wingers who don't want the immigrants here at all and you have the ingredients for lots of Democratic losses.

Remember, it was minorities who defeated gay marriage in California (before the courts made Prop 8 unconstitutional).

Well HUNDREDS of millions want the truth, regardless of what your millions prefer to be told.

Jobs - 30k/mo lower avg than 8yrs of Obama
Economy - 7% lower growth than 8yrs of Obama
Foreign Safety - lowest relations ever and on the verge of war with N Korea, Russia, Iran and more strained relations with China, Canada, Mexico, UK, France, Germany, Australia, Qatar than 8yrs of Obama
Domestic Safety - same, except for a sharp increase in white nationalist crimes

See above. The distractions are coming from the President's spokesman, Donald Trump.

Political effects meaning that it pisses off racists.

But who is the Republican ticket going to be?

Jesus the dude is so obviously compromised. He doesn't give a flying **** about anything yet is hyper focused on never, ever offending Mother Russia.

Maybe they were right when they said WW3 would happen under Hillary. I mean, obviously Putin would start it, but that wouldn't matter to the masses.

Whether you're right or wrong doesn't matter much in the context of this discussion, because we're not talking about just any immigrants, we're talking about immigrants FILTERED by a dishonest and white supremacist administration.

Not that Congress has any shot of accepting this proposal anyway, so what I just said doesn't matter much either. It's almost as if Trump is trying to turn his base against Congress. Nahhh that would be ******ed. Trump would never...

Sorry I can't provide a link, but there is a WaPo article that is quoting from a transcript of Trumps conversation with the Mexican president where Trump basically begs the Mexican President to stop saying Mexico is not going to pay for the wall and where he tries to convince the Mexican President that he knows the US will have to pay for it. Lol.

In some eastern european countries gays are disappearing and some places they are victims of mass arrest and tortured. Having extremists take power is a bad idea, im sure you know some history.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.1987b8446006

I feel like every Trumpster in this thread is uncannily like one of the Trump surrogates and Poco is hands down this thread's Jeffrey Lord.

Here's the transcript of both that and the conversation with the Australian leader.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.1cf8533f74b2

After Delaney and Patrick fizzle out, this will end up being the Democratic ticket.

unrelated to the incredible mexico stuff, this is my fav part

I guess it shouldn't be so surprising he's never heard of the Cuban Missile Crisis, but still shocks somewhat to hear this from a POTUS.

You want a list of things Trump did that were barely covered?

Trumpkins still overwhelming support pre-emptively attacking North Korea now because KJU is wrong, regardless of how much public instigating Trump does to accelerate tensions.

Thanks.

lol

Immigrant rights are a moral issue and immigration is good for the country. I can't speak for democrats, but I'm not motivated by counting immigrant votes.

Trump urged Mexican president to end his public defiance on border wall, transcript reveals

“On the wall, you and I both have a political problem,” Trump said. “My people stand up and say, ‘Mexico will pay for the wall,’ and your people probably say something in a similar but slightly different language.”

Trump seemed to acknowledge that his threats to make Mexico pay had left him cornered politically. “I have to have Mexico pay for the wall — I have to,” he said. “I have been talking about it for a two-year period.”

jfc that tweet...

I hope his public blaming/shaming of Congress increases the chance of his undoing.

He even looks like Roy Cohn. Probably the main reason Trump has him around