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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

08-01-2017 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Two minutes later....



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...66646542782464

At least Kelly could have fixed the part about election day being six months ago.
08-01-2017 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by davmcg
I'd be surprised if Pence pardoned Trump. From the GOP point of view Trump has to be painted as an enemy who lied and betrayed the party and the country. He has to be severely punished. If they effectively try a grand cover-up, they are surely saying that his behaviour is fine in the GOP.
100% disagree. Painting a Republican President as "the enemy" is not something the Republican party wants to do. Especially when many of them have actively supported him.

If it comes to impeachment, Pence will almost certainly pardon him and the Republican party will just try to make the whole thing go away and be forgotten about. Probably by returning to the tried and true method of talking about guns, God, and brown people.
08-01-2017 , 09:14 AM


Wow. This ****ing story. Alleges that Trump was directly involved in spreading misinformation about the Seth Rich story to distract from the Comey firing.
08-01-2017 , 09:16 AM
wonder what is fuelling the expansion of nato

oh yea its cos countries on russias border are desperate to join b/c if they stand alone THEY GET INVADED
08-01-2017 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JPantz


Wow. This ****ing story. Alleges that Trump was directly involved in spreading misinformation about the Seth Rich story to distract from the Comey firing.
This is pretty wild.
08-01-2017 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Two minutes later....



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...66646542782464
Nice to see that the portfolios of coal miners are continuing to rise at the same pace they did under Obama.
08-01-2017 , 09:31 AM
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Butowsky also texted Wheeler: "Not to add any more pressure but the president just read the article. He wants the article out immediately. It's now all up to you."
Stupid Watergate.
08-01-2017 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
This is pretty wild.
That's ok. It only came out the day after WaPo's story that Trump personally massaged Trump Jr's story about only talking about adoptions that turned out to be misleading.
08-01-2017 , 09:33 AM
Nearly all Cabinet officials attend Bible lessons with right-wing pastor who compares Trump to biblical heroes

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/near...blical-heroes/

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Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price, Energy Secretary Rick Perry, Education Secretary Betsy Devos, Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue and CIA Director Mike Pompeo are all regular attendees.

The most notable, however, is Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
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He said that the group is the “best” he’s “ever taught” because the officials “are so teachable; they’re so noble; they’re so learned.”
How about them low taxes Mason? Working out for you?
08-01-2017 , 09:36 AM
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Mattis and Kelly also agreed in the earliest weeks of Trump’s presidency that one of them should remain in the United States at all times to keep tabs on the orders rapidly emerging from the White House, according to a person familiar with the discussions. The official insisted on anonymity in order to discuss the administration’s internal dynamics.
Kind of like how the wife and I agreed that one of us should have an eye on our baby at all times

https://apnews.com/290dfd4f9e364a29ba0e4d7f6e7ad9aa
08-01-2017 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Nearly all Cabinet officials attend Bible lessons with right-wing pastor who compares Trump to biblical heroes
That is somewhere between burying the lead and being dishonest:

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Drollinger sees Trump as the biblical character Samson, who is known for the source of his strength coming from his hair. Jn Judges, Samson is an immoral person who does little more than slaughter and betray people.
08-01-2017 , 09:51 AM
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Mattis and Kelly also agreed in the earliest weeks of Trump’s presidency that one of them should remain in the United States at all times to keep tabs on the orders rapidly emerging from the White House, according to a person familiar with the discussions. The official insisted on anonymity in order to discuss the administration’s internal dynamics.
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Kind of like how the wife and I agreed that one of us should have an eye on our baby at all times

https://apnews.com/290dfd4f9e364a29ba0e4d7f6e7ad9aa
Me, back in April:

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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Like if someone laid odds that the WH staff has some informal, unwritten but very serious, critical agreement that a rotating staff of McMaster, Preibus, Ross, Mattis, Coats or Mnunchin and maybe a few of the other non-******s have to be within a 5 minute walk of Trump at all times of the day to prevent him from doing something catastrophic, I'd take the bet at like even money. Something like that has probably developed.
08-01-2017 , 09:57 AM
Yeah, he's not gonna stop tweeting:



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...83242535481344
08-01-2017 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Me, back in April:
Super predictable, even money would have been such a steal. Guy is an unhinged lunatic. Of course he needs supervision
08-01-2017 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Two minutes later....



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...66646542782464
Kelly may get Trump to stop tweeting, says Krauthammer...

08-01-2017 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
Super predictable, even money would have been such a steal. Guy is an unhinged lunatic. Of course he needs supervision
The common argument for a Constitutional crisis in the Trump Admin is something like Trump versus Congress after he fires Mueller or some scenario like that. I think that's overpriced, probably less likely than people assume.

The real deal Constitutional crisis imo is when Trump really loses his **** and tries to nuke someone or arrest Bezos because the Washington Post is bothering him or whatever, and one or some group of his Babysitters has to contradict him and overrule him in some completely unconstitutional way. We all might cheer for his adult supervisors to step in and overrule him but that is like pretty brazenly illegal if people stop following Presidential orders and the chain of command runs through Kelly or Mattis or whatever.
08-01-2017 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Kind of like how the wife and I agreed that one of us should have an eye on our baby at all times

https://apnews.com/290dfd4f9e364a29ba0e4d7f6e7ad9aa
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Originally Posted by President Donald J. Trump
Am I a baby to you? I sit there like a little baby and watch TV and you talk to about me? Am I a f--king baby, Paul Huehue?
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08-01-2017 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
The common argument for a Constitutional crisis in the Trump Admin is something like Trump versus Congress after he fires Mueller or some scenario like that. I think that's overpriced, probably less likely than people assume.

The real deal Constitutional crisis imo is when Trump really loses his **** and tries to nuke someone or arrest Bezos because the Washington Post is bothering him or whatever, and one or some group of his Babysitters has to contradict him and overrule him in some completely unconstitutional way. We all might cheer for his adult supervisors to step in and overrule him but that is like pretty brazenly illegal if people stop following Presidential orders and the chain of command runs through Kelly or Mattis or whatever.
I think its pretty worrisome and quite realistic that Trump tweets out something that is either a direct declaration of war or something that can interpreted as such. I think that's more likely than him trying to actually do something militarily that can be seen as an act of war.

Meantime, it seems like Mattis and Co. are already essentially overruling Trump's edict on transgenders in the military(his only real military decision) by leaving the ball in the White House court and asking for additional direction before taking action. In other words, I don't think any changes will be made and his order will fade into the background like so many other crazy tweets have.
08-01-2017 , 10:20 AM


Crazy that a guy too busy to watch TV somehow always sees what Fox and Friends has to say.
08-01-2017 , 10:25 AM
His retort to that is well someone mentioned it to me
08-01-2017 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
I think its pretty worrisome and quite realistic that Trump tweets out something that is either a direct declaration of war or something that can interpreted as such. I think that's more likely than him trying to actually do something militarily that can be seen as an act of war.
Think it's more likely it's a mix of what we've already seen. A scenario like when he announced his travel ban without much preparation and threw TSA and CBP into confusion except on a much larger scale. E.g., there's some terrorist attack, or some chaotic event, so Trump wants to posture what a strong tough guy he is, and so he does some sort of grand Close the Borders and Ports and Freeze All Foreign Assets and round up Muslims thing, and then Tillerson and Mnuchin and Sessions and whoever else are part of his cabinet and his other handlers are forced with decisions like "follow President's orders and wreck global economy?" type of decisions where Trump insists and then they are forced into tough decisions.
08-01-2017 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Found this funny since the topic came up yesterday.

https://twitter.com/PKBlake/status/892157760984330241
the comments on this are solid too
08-01-2017 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by True North
Wait, I thought the GOP was dead set against executive action? So confusing.
Should we get out the skinny jeans and beard oil? Because this is soooo 2016.
08-01-2017 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by otatop


Crazy that a guy too busy to watch TV somehow always sees what Fox and Friends has to say.
Trump voters who pulled the lever because of jobs could stare at this for days and not see what's wrong with it.
08-01-2017 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
Meantime, it seems like Mattis and Co. are already essentially overruling Trump's edict on transgenders in the military(his only real military decision) by leaving the ball in the White House court and asking for additional direction before taking action. In other words, I don't think any changes will be made and his order will fade into the background like so many other crazy tweets have.
Will it be liberals calling for military rule?

Mattis and Kelly may not be perfect, but they're better than Trump. The military actually does long range planning and takes global warming as a serious threat. Is military rule better than the GOP or the Oligharchy?

Crikey! Time to practice my Australian mates.

      
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