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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

07-31-2017 , 04:22 PM
07-31-2017 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
But how much is the "would you vote again" poll of value? It's not a real choice. People aren't presented a real alternative so yeah must people would say they would do most things like that again.

I'm not a big fan of super hypothetical polling. If you are not actually presenting a real choice in context I think you get a lot of noise. Was my issue w three way polling during the election. Offering someone three options they will never have will not ever likely predict actual actions!
also how motivated are the Trumpsters going to be next go around? Joe Six Pack Trumpster will look around and realize his lot in life hasn't changed (and actually things have gotten worse). should i drive to the polling station and wait in line again or just crack open another High Life?
07-31-2017 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
But how much is the "would you vote again" poll of value? It's not a real choice. People aren't presented a real alternative so yeah must people would say they would do most things like that again.

I'm not a big fan of super hypothetical polling. If you are not actually presenting a real choice in context I think you get a lot of noise. Was my issue w three way polling during the election. Offering someone three options they will never have will not ever likely predict actual actions!
Probably true. I guess what i want to get at is that those who voted for him are idiots. For many of them Trump is not failing, the GOP is. The depressing thing is that they might as well elect the next derp after Trump is gone.
07-31-2017 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
Probably true. I guess what i want to get at is that those who voted for him are idiots. For many of them Trump is not failing, the GOP is. The depressing thing is that they might as well elect the next derp after Trump is gone.
Yup.

Trump is a symptom, not the cause of the problem.
07-31-2017 , 04:37 PM
07-31-2017 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
also how motivated are the Trumpsters going to be next go around? Joe Six Pack Trumpster will look around and realize his lot in life hasn't changed (and actually things have gotten worse). should i drive to the polling station and wait in line again or just crack open another High Life?
You could say that things have gotten worse but the thing is that conservatives and liberals experience more happiness when the overall political climate in the country is according to their view.
07-31-2017 , 04:41 PM
“The President certainly felt that Anthony’s comments were inappropriate for someone in that position.”


07-31-2017 , 04:41 PM
The stabbing in the front quote has aged well.
07-31-2017 , 04:44 PM
Stirewalt: Scaramucci Firing 'Could Be Viewed as Moment the Comeback Started'
07-31-2017 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
Didn´t we have a rather depressing survey that cam to the conclusion that 98% of Trump voters would vote for him again?
He's a reality TV star. Each spectacular failure or scandal just leads people yearning for a more spectacular one. This goes for Trumpkins and non Trumpkins.

Admit it. You can't wait for the next one.
07-31-2017 , 04:46 PM
Retrospectively, it seems clear this had to happen. As a military guy, Kelly had to insist on staff discipline and a clear chain of command. The Mooch came in insulting the Chief of Staff. No way Kelly could let him stay even a day. Hell if I know how he expects to deal with the ultimate source of chaos though.
07-31-2017 , 05:04 PM
The days of Scaramucci, ranked.

Not a good 1.5 weeks if "your wife files for divorce" doesn't even make the bottom 3 of a list of 11.
07-31-2017 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
only posting to say that william browder's testimony was deemed important enough to have its full transcript posted to theatlanic.com and is thus the second most popular article on the site right now.
It should be pointed out, this was merely Browder's 5 or 10 minute long opening statement from the hearing. It's informative but just a fraction compared to the 1.25 hours of Q&A that followed. Also the overall mannerisms (especially from Dems in this one) only get captured on a video, and I've seen all the Russia ones in their entirety. Dems were clearly frustrated more than usual and their lines of questioning and confidence showed they knew where to probe; the money, the methods, and the legislation. IMO probably the 2nd most important hearing so far, next to Comey's, with potential to surpass it.
07-31-2017 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
This dude looks like a total crackpot. Just like my opinion man, but a guy who tweets literally a hundred times per day and doesn't understand capitalization above a kindergarten level may not be the most reliable source.
artistic license, or, perhaps, Artistic License.
07-31-2017 , 05:10 PM
Congratulations, I'll pray for The Mooch.
07-31-2017 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
I hadn't read the MSM Holding Back Stories thread when I made this post.

I withdraw it. Get the **** out of here with this weak bull****. Learn things! Know who Kushner and Kelly are! Facts->Opinion->Post. Get the **** out of here with this conspiratorial bull****. To bring back a DVaut post about someone else, if this is how you handle politics as a hobby, investing HOURS into random Senate hearings but not knowing who John Kelly was prior to today, find a new leisure time activity.
Why are there still posts like this cursing and screaming at me and misrepresenting my posts?? This is a ****ing hatchet job! I never claimed not to know who John Kelly is.

Between you and two others, I'm spending most of my posting time correcting either bull**** mistakes or bull**** dishonesty.
07-31-2017 , 05:28 PM
Literally anything offensive Trump utters is handwaived as "he was just joking what's wrong with YOU?"
07-31-2017 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Why are there still posts like this cursing and screaming at me and misrepresenting my posts?? This is a ****ing hatchet job! I never claimed not to know who John Kelly is.

Between you and two others, I'm spending most of my posting time correcting either bull**** mistakes or bull**** dishonesty.
we love you. you are loved.
07-31-2017 , 05:32 PM
07-31-2017 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex Ingram
This thread needs less our house and more dvaut
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Definitely. Our House doesn't really know what he's talking about, seems to have no area of expertise, and is predisposed to believe anything anti-Trump (to be fair, 75% of which is true). Surprised he hasn't been posting Loise Mensch tweets.
Yeah, simplicitus, please make another 2 or 3 dozen posts splooging all the page behind Mueller's Dream Team.
07-31-2017 , 05:34 PM
Two questions:
1. What is a scape?
2. What is goat-firing?
07-31-2017 , 05:35 PM
lawl don't start none won't be none
07-31-2017 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Yuv
Stirewalt: Scaramucci Firing 'Could Be Viewed as Moment the Comeback Started'
Those around on the internet long enough will remember 2005-2008 on the internet and Iraq War punditry wherein guys like Tom Friedman proclaimed the next 6 months were pivotal to America's success in Iraq multiple times over a 4 year period.

One form of Trump apologist talking point I've noticed even dating back to his time as a candidate is that THIS, this moment right here could be the one where Trump disavows being an inept clown and finally gets down to business and everything changes and now he'll really show everyone what a serious leader he is and this could change everything. Oh, once he's inaugurated, they said, the campaign will be over and he'll get down to business. Oh, now that this messy Flynn business he's behind him, he's really going to get serious about governing. Oh, look how he's publically disgraced himself again, he's learned his lesson and will be very Presidential now. Oh, this week is a complete maelstrom of chaos, he's learned his lesson and this is the start of the comeback, General Kelly will instill order. Well we know we said Mad Dog would do that once he was inaugurated and then we said it against once McMaster replaced Flynn but THIS TIME the military guys will make him be normal.
07-31-2017 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nyc999
EVERY. SINGLE. THING. HAS. ITS. OWN. TWEET.

It really is amazing. We might be living in a simulation.
07-31-2017 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
It's a tedious posting style. Take this thread, where the JAQ'ing off conspiracy theorist style was pointed out:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/41...ories-1681079/

You: let's discuss the media and if they bury stories
Me: OK, that probably happens, what's your point
You: what if I were to tell you MSNBC knows Trump funnels billions to Soviets

It's tedious. No one is as dumb as you're treating them. If you want to talk about your pet theories about how Trump gave Putin billions out of the US Treasury, just ****ing say that. You're wasting everyone's time; people are giving you far more patience than you deserve. You very transparently want to say this stuff, just go ahead and say it. The ultimate point of your random YouTube videos and a bunch of disorganized questions and thoughts are obvious, so just say the stuff you're thinking. You've already developed a persecution complex; so you haven't avoided the feeling of having your head chewed off. You've just made it harder on yourself and the people responding to you.
Another gross mischaracterization of what actually happened.

I started a thread about the media and burying stories with 5 reasons why they might in the OP.

You replied, addressing 4 of them.

I replied to you with 3 hypotheticals of incredibly damaging Trump stories that MSM might suppress, one Russian money laundering, 1 generic Trump sex trafficking, 1 global leader emoluments/conflicts to show you examples of the reason (reason #1) you left out of your post.

You snap back accusing me of starting "another" Russia thread.

1) You cherrypicked 1 Russian statement and ignored 2 non-Russian examples, and the OP, to make your point.

2) Unless I have a crystal ball, I didn't know your next post was going to exclude #1 on the list of reasons. Yet you accused me of intentionally pre-planning and posting conspiracies (which is exactly what you did to me - called out my "conspiracy")

3) I've started exactly ONE thread on Russia, the Q&A one. Why falsely represent what I did and then use that to make it sound like all I do here is start Russia threads day and night?

Anyone can go to the thread you linked and compared my account of what happened to your account of what happened. STOP SMEARING MY ****. You expect me not to defend myself?

      
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