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07-30-2017 , 04:00 PM
Jake,

Do you think your plan was the most special, unique plan in the universe that was available only to you, or were there others like it? Because people here know a lot more than you are willing to give them credit for about the insurance market in general, both pre-and post-Obamacare. There are more ways to know things than to have bought one particular plan.
07-30-2017 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopey
Pretty sure the above is the honest truth. His claims about having been married twice, being a travelling preacher, being a snail farmer, and now being an insurance salesman are just fantasies. This is a very pathetic, troubled individual.
Top KEK...blast from the past. Pleased to see I struck a nerve. I wait your background check on Misti Stevenson. Get to work.

Jake
07-30-2017 , 04:03 PM
JFC ban this moron forum is unreadable

Or at least stop responding people
07-30-2017 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Jake,

Do you think your plan was the most special, unique plan in the universe that was available only to you, or were there others like it? Because people here know a lot more than you are willing to give them credit for about the insurance market in general, both pre-and post-Obamacare. There are more ways to know things than to have bought one particular plan.
You can assume certain things, but you really have no concrete idea how solid my coverage was without the policy. Right?

You know:

- I was young
- I was paying a small amount
- I had a $10,000 deductible
- My coverage was with BCBS

So, what's your precise claim? That if I got cancer and footed a $1,000,000 that my insurance wouldn't have covered everything after $10,000—because I assure you it would have.

Someone mentioned the fact that individual health policies in years past had to be renewed every year—obviously. There wasn't any escaping that. That doesn't mean my policy covered zero. It covered everything after $10,000 up to some range in the millions of dollars.

Jake
07-30-2017 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PuppyFridayYall2
At least my list was full of facts. Notice how the focus hasn't really been on the list. Mostly just insightful comments essentially like "I'm not reading that" ... or "that's from Reddit, not reading it because...Reddit."

So the focus has been on my own personal health coverage—the one I wanted and the one I don't—and how I don't understand the greatness of the ACA. And how I don't understand my previous policy but they do—despite literally nobody having access to my policy—therefore rendering their opinions re: my policy 100% moot because how could they speak on my policy without access to it?

Jake
your list was way too stupid to parse. comey wasn't a nutjob he was willing to testify in public under oath about trump's attempts to obstruct justice, don jr paul manafort and jared kushner are pushing back hard against that idea for themselves and so far they haven't testified under oath about this whole rusher thing.

but what do you think about the president's constant whining on twitter? can't we agree that it makes him look weak?

i mean, i can agree that ((((DWS)))) suspiciously/stupidly kept these criminal foreigners on her payroll for longer than i probably would have, just knowing what i know from reading the newspapers. but they're arrested and charged with like, bank fraud. but (((DWS))) isn't head of the dnc anymore so i don't see why you think it's such a huge deal. donald trump is president, that's why people are closely paying attention to what he's doing, because he's president.
07-30-2017 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
JFC ban this moron forum is unreadable

Or at least stop responding people
Wait, what's moronic, genius? Another example of someone calling me a name. Super clever, troll!

If you people aren't interested in my personal insurance coverage, than stop espousing stupid nonsense about my personal insurance coverage.

Jake
07-30-2017 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
your list was way too stupid to parse. comey wasn't a nutjob he was willing to testify in public under oath about trump's attempts to obstruct justice, don jr paul manafort and jared kushner are pushing back hard against that idea for themselves and so far they haven't testified under oath about this whole rusher thing.

but what do you think about the president's constant whining on twitter? can't we agree that it makes him look weak?

i mean, i can agree that ((((DWS)))) suspiciously/stupidly kept these criminal foreigners on her payroll for longer than i probably would have, just knowing what i know from reading the newspapers. but they're arrested and charged with like, bank fraud. but (((DWS))) isn't head of the dnc anymore so i don't see why you think it's such a huge deal. donald trump is president, that's why people are closely paying attention to what he's doing, because he's president.
You don't seem like you're coming from a genuine place. I won't engage.

(((((Jake))))
07-30-2017 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
JFC ban this moron forum is unreadable

Or at least stop responding people
+1

If there's a Trump supporter out there that wants to contribute in a meaningful way, fine.

But people that unironically post "REEEEEE" and "Top KEK" and that copypaste 4000 word lists from /r/The_Donald need to be exiled.
07-30-2017 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PuppyFridayYall2
You don't seem like you're coming from a genuine place. I won't engage.

(((((Jake))))
try again
07-30-2017 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
Is the DWS thing that stupid conspiracy Suzzer's buddy was all hot and bothered about?
Yes. The smoking gun DWS youtube of her asking for her laptop back from capitol police was from May. Guess ole' Trumpster was just sitting on this earthshattering scandal for a couple of months out of fair play.
07-30-2017 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
+1

If there's a Trump supporter out there that wants to contribute in a meaningful way, fine.

But people that unironically post "REEEEEE" and "Top KEK" and that copypaste 4000 word lists from /r/The_Donald need to be exiled.
Then I'll stop posting. Groupthink off the charts on 2+2 is sad. Explains why live poker is alive and well.

I assumed you all were interested in my personal insurance because you kept making concrete claims about my personal insurance policies without a single clue. I'll happily not post anymore ITT. For real this time.

All praise the ACA!

I post REEEEEEE and KEK in kind. People that are earnest got genuine replies. People who simply said the equivalent of "troll REEEEEEE" got a REEEEEE. That's really all your comment deserved, but I gave you more.

You're welcome,
Jake
07-30-2017 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger

But people that unironically post "REEEEEE" and "Top KEK" and that copypaste 4000 word lists from /r/The_Donald need to be exiled.
This describes 100% of trumpkins.
07-30-2017 , 04:19 PM
Get on with it and stop posting then Jake, you've promised often enough and literally no one has asked you not to.

07-30-2017 , 04:19 PM
he should be exiled for refusing to defend the list he posted, the aca derail literally has its own thread for years
07-30-2017 , 04:20 PM
I thought maybe now that we have three mods they might actually ban AIDS posters but I guess not.
07-30-2017 , 04:21 PM
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calibre
Not how Americans spell that word.
07-30-2017 , 04:23 PM
I don't think any of these guys are FSB paid professional trolls, to be clear, but 2p2 has long been infested with basement dwelling reactionary Scandavian and Baltic teenagers because of how great an income source rakeback grinding was for them.

The Ukraine thread did have some of those I think, and they were way less coherent than the Gamergate/4chan/alt-right dip****s like Jake. The Russian pro-Trump bots on Twitter also just repost canned phrases.
07-30-2017 , 04:25 PM
Ban or exile is incoming imo. Trying to decide which is appropriate given the situation.

Would be nice if you guys could avoid feeding the most blatantly obvious trolls on the internet, but it's cool.
07-30-2017 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PuppyFridayYall2
It is a worse policy—for ME genius. I want cheap high-deductible catastrophic coverage. I don't have access to that. I can only and have to buy a silver/bronze/**** plan from one company. What don't you understand? You do realize that pre-ACA, I could have had access to literally hundreds of plans, correct?

Jake

That
Plan
Would
Not
Have
Covered
You
In
The
Event
Of
A
Catastrophe

It was scam insurance; what part don't you understand?

They would have done some combo of:

1. Deny coverage for some procedures
2. Dropped you at re-enrollment
3. Claimed you had some weak preexisting condition link to what you have now and deny the claim
4. Lifetime capped your ass


What they would NOT have done is paid for all of your procedures after the 10k deductible and continued paying for them year after year

And other plans would have then not allowed you to join after this one dropped you because you would have preexisting condition


Also, why can't you take this to the ACA Healthcare thread? It's also a huge thread and specifically covers this topic with most of the same posters
07-30-2017 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Would be nice if you guys could avoid feeding the most blatantly obvious trolls on the internet
ffs this
07-30-2017 , 04:40 PM
yeah let's get back to the fun stuff

Historian Timothy Snyder: “It’s pretty much inevitable” that Trump will try to stage a coup and overthrow democracy
In your book you discuss the idea that Donald Trump will have his own version of Hitler’s Reichstag fire to expand his power and take full control of the government by declaring a state of emergency. How do you think that would play out?

Let me make just two points. The first is that I think it’s pretty much inevitable that they will try. The reason I think that is that the conventional ways of being popular are not working out for them. The conventional way to be popular or to be legitimate in this country is to have some policies, to grow your popularity ratings and to win some elections. I don’t think 2018 is looking very good for the Republicans along those conventional lines — not just because the president is historically unpopular. It’s also because neither the White House nor Congress have any policies which the majority of the public like.

This means they could be seduced by the notion of getting into a new rhythm of politics, one that does not depend upon popular policies and electoral cycles.
07-30-2017 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PuppyFridayYall2
Someone mentioned the fact that individual health policies in years past had to be renewed every year—obviously. There wasn't any escaping that. That doesn't mean my policy covered zero. It covered everything after $10,000 up to some range in the millions of dollars.



Jake

So questions, assuming you are correct that they would have paid $2M to help with your catastrophe as long as it was all before renewal period...

1. Would they have renewed you again the next year?
2. If they would, would you be close to lifetime cap, making renewal pointless?
3. If you switched plans (or were dropped in #1), would other companies have enrolled you?
4. If yes to #3, would they have said your catastrophe was preexisting condition so future events deemed related wouldn't be covered by them?
5. If yes to #3, how much would your new plan have been each month?
07-30-2017 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PuppyFridayYall2
I'll leave with these parting thoughts:

1. Russia is a ruse
2. The ACA will explode
3. The DNC/Swamp is on notice—the Awans are only the beginning—this is HUGE.

Jake
Not only are you an awful liar, you really suck at the "You guys are so mean, goodbye forever!" Game.

Hint: when you say you are leaving forever, you only win if you actually leave forever.
07-30-2017 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
during this AIDS discussion, actual breaking news

Putin's ordered half the US diplomats to leave.

The bill hasn't been signed yet.
Tell me about it. I've literally been screaming about Thursday's hearing at the top of my lungs and can't penetrate the AIDS wall.

There's no significant new Russia news since then (just sanctions from the last few weeks and Putin's revenge). No Dem or GOP has said a word about it on TV. And there were bombshells about following the money and recent/current/future legislation allowing loopholes for Russians to use to bring laundered money in for rich US people to hide and store Putin's cash.

But carry on...

PS Browder hearing doesn't just mean "Browder hearing", like adoptions means "Magnitsky sanctions" and former KGB means "current FSB." Browder represented Magnitsky until Putin had him killed, and since then Browder made it his life's work to dig into everything surrounding it. He's the world's foremost expert on the Russian side of the Trump Jr meeting and other "adoption" discussions they had. They didn't just lobby Trump, the Russians lobbied CONGRESS too!

PPS Talk about weird, not even Rachel said a word about any of this on Thursday or Friday. I feel like the hearing never happened. JFC.

Last edited by Our House; 07-30-2017 at 05:05 PM.
07-30-2017 , 04:54 PM
You can still buy those scam insurance policies. Most companies sell them as short term insurance.

https://www.azblue.com/individualsan...ical-insurance

You will still have to pay the ACA fine for not being covered but if you really want to make a donation to a giant, for-profit corporation, then sign up for that.

      
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