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Originally Posted by ChrisV
It's a bit arbitrary how you slice it up and really rather than groups they are like dimensions of the right-wing personality that people can score higher or lower on. However, it's kind of crazy to me that you can say that "Macho" doesn't really exist, I'd call it one of the defining traits of the modern GOP, and certainly of Trumpism. Look at the post directly above this one, where what Trump doesn't like about Priebus is that he's "weak". This is a common right-wing insult along with cuck, snowflake, complaining about "safe spaces" etc. There's threatening to beat up protesters and "grab them by the pussy" (just locker room talk ldo). There's the gun fetishism. The worship of law enforcement and especially the military. "Drill baby drill" and coal rolling. I don't know how you explain any of this without reference to masculine posturing. I'd also say that Trump's tough guy posturing is what a lot of his fans like about him.
It's not normal for the Right to be like that in a prosperous democracy. If you look at the UK for example, none of the above is really a thing. Their Trump-esque figure, Boris Johnson, is not anything like as masculine and dominance seeking as Trump. The erstwhile leader of their anti-immigration party, Nigel Farage, is a ponce.
I don't want to derail the thread with gender theory so this is my last post about the subject.
U.K. right is more associated with the upper class and posh schools.
In fact Labour thrived in the days in which the blue collar worker was the main political subject.
Thatcher genius was challenging the models of masculinity. The introduction of the idea of having a car as something masculine was something that the old Labour Party never recovered from.
To Microbet: I completely agree with the link you posted , however I think those kind of political positions are possible in countries in which we see more poverty and more women oppression.
In the developed first world I think feminism has reaches a point where it's becoming really difficult to articulate the needs of educated middle class women with the needs of the working class.
Also upper middle class women want equal status , they want positions in power. Poorer women tend to seek security and so on, they don't care if female movie stars make less than their male counterparts.
USA history has a strong rural background, you had your house in the middle of nowhere and you had to protect your family with a gun. That's the context in which masculinity in the American south thrived.
Finally to go full feminist here I think the problem USA has is that it's lack of Marxist culture in the important universities led to radical feminism which basically means "**** men" which may be a decent framework for understanding the world but it's a complete political disaster even for women themselves because it leaves them without allies.
A great example of the failure of this feminism is well Donald Trump winning the election with rust belt votes.
But a more precise example is Sheryl Sandberg , progressive billionaire related to some hi tech **** I don't really understand. A group of working class women asked her for help in forming a union and she turned them down.
The final result is this thread in which you lot discuss how Trump is taking healthcare away from the poor and abortion rights for women.