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07-28-2017 , 06:26 PM

#48851

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

It's official, all the people in the teevees are giving McCain the lifetime mavericky maverick award cuz he did one thing.

called it in the other thread, but to be fair dvaut and fly predicted this glorification of the "moderate republican" long ago. def very predictable, which is why we must dispel with this notion that mccain didnt know what he was doing, he knew exactly what he was doing.

07-28-2017 , 06:26 PM

#48852

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iron81

Speaking of liberal Ws, I predict Trump allows the Russia sanctions bill to become law without signing it.

Dear God, I promise to never ask for another thing if a) Trump vetoes, b) congress overrides, c) Russia releases pee-pee tape anyway.

Amen.

07-28-2017 , 06:27 PM

#48853

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkubus

Almost certain that should read "3 Chiefs of staff".

Surely this gaffe will be the thing that sinks Trump.

07-28-2017 , 06:28 PM

#48854

mather_2020

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Checked in for the entertaining/scary/embarrassing news drop and was not disappointed.

07-28-2017 , 06:30 PM

#48855

Dominic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkubus

Almost certain that should read "3 Chiefs of staff".

you're correct

07-28-2017 , 06:30 PM

#48856

stinkubus

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,422

I'm pretty sure the incomprehensible palaver is intentional and part of his appeal. Those drawn to him are already skeptical of elites and intellectuals and they can use their imagination to twist his words into whatever they want them to mean.

07-28-2017 , 06:30 PM

#48857

iron81

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There is an outside chance the sanctions do not become law if Ryan/McConnell elect not to call an override vote. However, I think they are highly likely to call the vote.

07-28-2017 , 06:31 PM

#48858

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StimAbuser

I say lettuce praise the absolute heck out of him. It might encourage others to defect. We are basically fighting a war. Best way to get the enemy to switch sides is to show clemency, forgive them, praise them. We need to encourage these people to stand up to Trump and the evilness of the GOP. Even if they still are scumbags.

Let's Caesar these bitches. We can hate them afterwards.

idk, pretty sure they will just go back to their shameless, lying, grifting ways at first opportunity. see manuel noriega

07-28-2017 , 06:31 PM

#48859

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

lol Reice basically got booted out of the POTUS caravan when he was trying to load into the cars just off the plane. Trump just chilled on the plane.

"he gon' cry in the car"

07-28-2017 , 06:34 PM

#48860

Dominic

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07-28-2017 , 06:35 PM

#48861

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkubus

And as soon as something goes wrong Trump unceremoniously dumps you. You'd have to be stupid or willfully blind not to see that as inevitable, and I'd venture most people who have risen to the rank of general have at least a modicum of intelligence although some may be blinded by ambition.

exhibit A: michael flynn

07-28-2017 , 06:37 PM

#48862

stinkubus

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Flynn is a very curious case, imo, and the absence of his name in any recent news is somewhat suspicious.

07-28-2017 , 06:42 PM

#48863

mather_2020

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Wonder how long before Bannon is dumped.

07-28-2017 , 06:42 PM

#48864

Onlydo2days

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Maybe I'm just jaded at this point but I really don't see Priebus firing resulting in a Trump+Finance bros vs GOP establishment showdown coming.

Seems as if stuff like that always comes out that he is going to pivot and he never does.

07-28-2017 , 06:46 PM

#48865

uDevil

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Maybe irrational but I'm feel like there's been a real shift.

07-28-2017 , 06:49 PM

#48866

bobman0330

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DVaut1

I want to be clear that I'm sure Kelly is probably terrible in many ways, at least outwardly on immigration. Who knows what else. But Reince Priebus and the GOP are insane right-wing ideologues on basically all issues and his coordinating and organizing to the national GOP and Paul Ryan types gave Trump a lot of institutional backing. This portends a potential for discord with almost no downsides I can see, other than Kelly perhaps is more efficient/rigorous at achieving bad ends than Priebus who seems to have Peter Principled his way up to his failure point.

I don't really disagree with this, just think it's unrealistic to paint this (so far, at least) as a purge of the GOPe and the insane right-wing ideologues. It's a purge of the GOPe and a replacement of them with more insane right-wing ideologues. I understand why the trade could be a good one.

07-28-2017 , 06:51 PM

#48867

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

trump is cutting ties with the politicians and strengthening his ties to the military. he's preparing to react to mueller's investigation as if it's a coup, and he wants deep connections with the military when that happens

Lol, deep connections to the military? The chairman of the joint chiefs of staff came as close to bitchslapping the president as someone in that position can with his statement in response to Trumps transgender twitter policy. H.R. McMaster also apparently not getting along with him. Military leaders do NOT back Trump in any kind of attempted coup. This really still continues to be Stupid Watergate.

07-28-2017 , 06:54 PM

#48868

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xander

Thats a great idea when the GOP congress is all that stands between him and impeachment/prison.

07-28-2017 , 06:58 PM

#48869

Kirbynator

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seems like he doesnt realize how close to a cliff he is

07-28-2017 , 06:58 PM

#48870

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BOIDS

how does the non-vetoable bill thing work. what % does it need and by what mechanism does it become unvetoable

The president has 10 days to sign a bill or veto it. If he vetoes it, it goes back to Congress. Senate and House can override the veto with a 2/3 majority vote.

07-28-2017 , 06:58 PM

#48871

stinkubus

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It's a game of chicken now. TRUMP only has to siphon off a small % of R support for 2018 and 2020 to be total blood baths.

07-28-2017 , 06:58 PM

#48872

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Yep, there's a tweet for that.

This just can't be real. How can he have tweeted against himself ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME. It's astounding.

07-28-2017 , 06:59 PM

#48873

PartyGirlUK

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President WDGAF about re-election and acts independently of party politics is basically my dream POTUS, but obvious not this guy.

07-28-2017 , 07:01 PM

#48874

markksman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Uh, it was actually after it, he made a pro-police brutality speech full of insane chain emails about MS13 and Chicago(lol imagine how ****ing terrified Inso is of Chicago)

On one of ins0s long hauls he accidentally crossed over into Illinois for 32 seconds and didn't sleep for 45 days.

That's scared of Chicago

Ins0s wife once brought home some soybeans but ins0 knows the commodities market is in Chicago so he placed them in a trash can and blew them up in his side yard.

That's scared of Chicago.

Whenever the wind goes above 15mph ins0 cloaks himself in an emergency blanket and hides in the tub. He knows what city has the nickname for wind.

That's scared of Chicago.