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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-02-2017 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Killing his son was the right call? What the **** are you talking about?
No, the drone strike in general. The controversy I was referring to was killing al-Walaki (the dad), who was a U.S. citizen.

Last edited by jayhawks; 02-02-2017 at 07:55 PM.
02-02-2017 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
we aren't talking about tomorrow you c*** bucket


In just two weeks Trump has alienated Mexico, 7 Muslim countries, Australia, China

Given a year, he might alienate the entire EU, because hes a c***


Right now, the UN would have our back, but if we start invading other countries, and telling everyone to **** off and get in line, yes, its possible they won't stand up for us, but they will be on the other side of the wall
Oh the most likely new EU ambassador for the US has already said he took down one Union in the Soviet Union and is ready to take down another one.

It's already on with the EU.
02-02-2017 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jayhawks
I seriously doubt it.

edit: Because Mattis
Oh I've no doubt he would be advised to do what you said. I'm telling you what trump and his puppet masters would do for maximum effect and attention.

Tanks in the Ciudad
02-02-2017 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
"fake tears" is such a paranoid thing to think about real people. like they couldn't possibly have an emotion about what trump is up to, so they have to lie to you using the art of acting, to try to change your political stance. just another lie you can easily dismiss
Trumpites are convinced that everyone is secretly as racist as they are. It's just that liberals pretend they aren't.
02-02-2017 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunkman
So did Haley accidentally pick up some of Obama's talking points on Ukraine?
I appreciated the effort.
02-02-2017 , 07:40 PM
I guess we'll just agree to disagree, let's just hope it doesn't come to that. I do feel that Mattis is the only person who would and could talk Trump out of doing something stupid like that.
02-02-2017 , 07:41 PM
Oops, the guy who gets stuff done and loves oil and pipelines just accidentally froze their approval process...

Trump loves pipelines. But he just accidentally froze a bunch of them
02-02-2017 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
Things move fast, hard to keep up with everything even with this thread. Before the election and even the inauguration I would have thought all the "I'm moving if Trump wins" stuff was a bit hysterical. Now I'm thinking that anyone who wants to live in a free society with clean air and water where science is taught in schools and respected should absolutely be making plans to get out. The only questions left are 1) is Canada far enough or do I need to go full Australia/NZ (have some friends out there) and 2) am I waiting too long to put my house in the market?
My wife and I have been having the same conversation. We clear seven figures if we sell our home, now. There's also a fairly strong savings/retirement portfolio. Between us, we hold five passports, including Canada and New Zealand. The plan was always to semi-retire to New Zealand in ten years.

We both love our work, and we love our home. We aren't ready to retire. Our work is such that doing similar in New Zealand would be worth about 1/3 of that here. Do we flee this presently toxic environment, or stay?

I have to admit I am not prepared for this. Not emotionally, nor intellectually. Last March, I confidently re-assured our New Zealand friends that Trump had NO CHANCE. I laugh at how terribly short-sighted my assumptions. I'm not weeping, yet. Perhaps I'm still in denial.
02-02-2017 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
A war with Iran would be like a war with Iraq...it would be fought in Iran, not here. Completely conventional. If it's China, where exactly would that war be fought? You think China would allow hostile American ground forces in their territory without some major nuke response?

War with Australia could be done fairly easy. Just have a few people from both sides meet somewhere in the middle - like Tahiti - and they can arm wrestle some while drinking some brews.
A war with Iran would make the one with Iraq look like a pillow fight. Expect 50,000+ US casualties.

By comparison a war with China would make Vietnam look like the pillow fight.


Both countries have the ability to strike the US homeland too. China much more so, but Iran is nothing to sneeze at.

The crazy thing is that both the Iranian and the Chinese people love Americans and just want to be able to get along and do business and make money. I wonder how many of them Trump will kill so he can look tough?
02-02-2017 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
well fake tears is on the order of nonsense where people actually believe that you could in a day, gather up thousands to protest at all airports and fund it all.
They don't actually believe either. Statements consistent with believing them just happen to have a shape appropriate to neutralising their intended target. "Personal emails" had a shape appropriate to damaging Clinton. They didn't care about Trump and various inner-circle members using personal email accounts. "Corruption" had a shape appropriate to damaging Clinton. They didn't care about Trump bribing officials and running a scam university. "Stood by a philanderer"; appropriate to damaging Clinton - but they didn't care about grabbing them by the pussy and trying to **** some woman while Melania was pregnant.

tl;dr they are not sincere but stupid. They are disingenuousness made flesh.
02-02-2017 , 07:48 PM
Fallout from the Trump Australia call:

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AUSTRALIA’S ambassador to the United States Joe Hockey has reportedly met with two of the most powerful members of Donald Trump’s administration amid the fallout over the President’s heated phone call with Malcolm Turnbull.

Mr Hockey met with Mr Trump’s chief of staff Reince Priebus and his chief strategist Steve Bannon at the White House, US media reports.

It was unclear what was discussed during the meeting however it was reportedly “very productive”.
Expect to see a lot of this going forward. People trying to circumvent Trump and work things out via back channels.
02-02-2017 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
america was relatively great during that short period in the 1950s when america's factories were all like, brand new and freshly oiled from just constructing a b52 every 30 minutes, and everywhere else in the world was rubble and ash with people foraging for food. i hope none of those insane nutjobs in the white house inner circle figured that out
We had Jim Crow. So no.
02-02-2017 , 07:50 PM
Wait, wait, the name of the Australian ambassador to the United States is "Joe Hockey"? I call FAKE NEWS.
02-02-2017 , 07:52 PM
Former Treasurer of this country. Bonus: His full name is "Joseph Benedict Hockey".
02-02-2017 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jayhawks
No, the drone strike in general. The controversy I was referring to was killing al-Walaki (the dad), who was a U.S. citizen.
On Fareed Zakaria's show a few months ago he named al-Awaki as perhaps the most dangerous man in the world right now.

And he's dead.
02-02-2017 , 07:59 PM
holy **** the isreal settlement thing was real. trump trashing obama for the un resolution he now supports won't matter to his supporters
02-02-2017 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
holy **** the isreal settlement thing was real. trump trashing obama for the un resolution he now supports won't matter to his supporters
WTF? What a flip flop. Like, which of the circle is pro-two-state? Kushner? Bannon? Price? Tillerson?
02-02-2017 , 07:59 PM
I remember when Reagan appointed a guy called Larry Speakes as his spokesman. Here in the UK we all laughed about how silly old Ronnie was presumably looking up LARRY TEACHES and LARRY FIRES MISSILES to head up the education and armed forces.

Oh for the good old days, when we just joked about how stupid the US president was. It's less funny these days.
02-02-2017 , 08:00 PM
02-02-2017 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
I remember when Reagan appointed a guy called Larry Speakes as his spokesman. Here in the UK we all laughed about how silly old Ronnie was presumably looking up LARRY TEACHES and LARRY FIRES MISSILES to head up the education and armed forces.

Oh for the good old days, when we just joked about how stupid the US president was. It's less funny these days.
Sharing our misery with your own?
02-02-2017 , 08:03 PM
List of currently ON NOTICE countries:

Mexico
Iran
Australia
Israel

Anyone else? I'm not including the EU because they were the ones making a fuss about the ambassador.
02-02-2017 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Former Treasurer of this country. Bonus: His full name is "Joseph Benedict Hockey".
Must be field hockey though.
02-02-2017 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
WTF? What a flip flop. Like, which of the circle is pro-two-state? Kushner? Bannon? Price? Tillerson?
I'd just guess Bannon because he's probably insane and wants policy going back and forth because he love chaos.

It could have actually been Trump though. Maybe Ivanka?
02-02-2017 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by snafoo
Must be field hockey though.
02-02-2017 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Sharing our misery with your own?
oh for sure. I die a little more with each passing day as the UK bonds closer with Trump/MAGA/USA#1etc and drifts further away from the EU.

      
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