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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

07-26-2017 , 05:28 PM
If Dems were any good at this the story would be 'Trump doesn't support the troops' by morning.
07-26-2017 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
That can't be right...$64M+ on boner meds??
it's about keeping our fighting forces lethal
07-26-2017 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
You have to admire the complete about-face.

Libs: We don't want to spend unlimited tax dollars to fund a massive war machine.

GOP: These leftwing terrorists hate our troops and by extension America. No price can be put on the sacrifice of a soldier going to war.

News: The military is spending 8 million a year for a few thousand transgendered troops.

GOP: We can't abide by this excessive spending. We're not made of money here.
Yea I mean it kind of gives away the game that the "omg we're sinking in debt, we can't pay for this!" is a sham. We have infinite money for things we want to pay for and empty pockets for things we don't.

I'm sure Inso is keeping a hawk eye on the amount of Hellfire missiles shot to make sure every one is spent judicially.
07-26-2017 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
So that's a clear 1A violation. Anything that can be done?
Politicians talk about worshipping god all the time.
07-26-2017 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
Politicians talk about worshipping god all the time.
Yes, they talk about how they themselves worship god.

It has now crossed over into the President endorsing that the entire country worships god. A direct endorsement of a dieism for the country from the leader.

I fully admit that my reading has no basis in legality and it very well could not be a 1a violation, but as a non-theist american, a direct statement from the white house that Americans worship god is incredibly worrisome and very much comes across as an endorsement.
07-26-2017 , 05:38 PM
07-26-2017 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Yes, they talk about how they themselves worship god.

It has now crossed over into the President endorsing that the entire country worships god. A direct endorsement of a dieism for the country from the leader.

I fully admit that my reading has no basis in legality and it very well could not be a 1a violation, but as a non-theist american, a direct statement from the white house that Americans worship god is incredibly worrisome and very much comes across as an endorsement.
reagan and a few more recent republican state officials have instituted "year of the bible."

this is deplorable, but it is not new, and certainly won't be legitimized without a fight.
07-26-2017 , 05:50 PM
Really have to lol at the water carrying gay Trump supporters. Remember Caitlyn Jenner was Trump's friend, and he did this anyway because the ardent bigots in his base got butthurt over his treatment of Jeff Sessions. Who do you think will be on the chopping block next time he pisses them off? Milo is gonna be lulzing at liberal tears when Trump cuts off gays from Medicare because America can't afford to pay for their promiscuous lifestyle.
07-26-2017 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
No problem with spending 8 times as much money on boner pills though, huh?
I think a distinction can be made between a million guys with dicks that don't work and promoting the physical and mental benefits of sex, and a few dozen/hundred women who want the Army to pay for one to be installed in the place of their otherwise functional vagina. Or vice versa.

But I'm sure it's more complicated than that. Maybe Viagra is a miracle drug just like birth control and it's pulling double duty for all those guys.


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Because they're these people's employer and insurance provider.
But nobody is forcing them to be employed by the military, and in fact, the military is now quite clearly declining their application for employment.

My stance changes in a world where transgender people are conscripted by the military and then not able to perform their duties because of how distraught they are at a lack of having a penis. In that case, I'd say the military knew what they were getting in to and should either pony up or let them get out of service.

LGBT are not a protected class. Don't make the mistake of arguing like they are.
07-26-2017 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
LGBT are not a protected class.
"I can discriminate, therefore I should"; the hottest of all takes
07-26-2017 , 06:01 PM
sf deplorable
07-26-2017 , 06:02 PM
Inso is the base Trump is shoring up with the transgender stuff.

Inso, does it make you forget about Sessions or that Trump never had any ideas about healthcare and just lied to suckers who's main policy agenda is sticking it to uppity libs? How's that working out? Has to be better than having some stuck up know it all lady as president.
07-26-2017 , 06:03 PM
Everyone's arguing whether military budget should include viagra and reassignment surgeries, how about we start with not blowing up civilians and work our way down the priority ladder??
07-26-2017 , 06:04 PM


Transgender former SEAL member Kristin Beck: ‘Tell me I’m not worthy’ to my face

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...team-6-member/

Wish she was here to snatch a knot in Inso's ass.
07-26-2017 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Yes, they talk about how they themselves worship god.

It has now crossed over into the President endorsing that the entire country worships god. A direct endorsement of a dieism for the country from the leader.

I fully admit that my reading has no basis in legality and it very well could not be a 1a violation, but as a non-theist american, a direct statement from the white house that Americans worship god is incredibly worrisome and very much comes across as an endorsement.
This is where I stand as well. Using the word WORSHIP crosses a line. It is not the same as saying God bless America or saying One Nation Under God. We are talking about the actual promotion of an act. It's very close to crossing the line.
07-26-2017 , 06:05 PM
I don't know if it would be preferable to just have bigots like InSO admit they think LGBT are gross and icky or continue with the ridiculous dog and pony show of military budget debates.

So disingenuous like aw yeah military budget will be streamlined now thank god for president trump
07-26-2017 , 06:07 PM
Caitlyn Jenner. Once arguably the world's best athlete. Military don't need them types!
07-26-2017 , 06:08 PM
Trump could tweet that America is a Christian Nation founded by God and nonchristian Americans sould not be allowed to vote and that would still not be a violation of the first amendment. (Though an EO or law saying that would be.)
07-26-2017 , 06:10 PM
Hell, that's pretty much the Republican platform anyway.
07-26-2017 , 06:14 PM
LOL Chiefsplanet is so on board with the ban. Pure glee.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=30
07-26-2017 , 06:30 PM
2017 isn't that time guys! It was just fine the last few years tho.
07-26-2017 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
LOL Chiefsplanet is so on board with the ban. Pure glee.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=30
and trump is a ****y for not firing sessions yet. Big authoritarian fans I see.
07-26-2017 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by aflametotheground
His wife was supposed to combat cyber bullying.

I think she chose that cause as an FU to him because she hates him and knows he is a huge cyber bully
07-26-2017 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Inso is the base Trump is shoring up with the transgender stuff.
Maybe, but even if you don't care about people and view LGBT issues solely through the cynical lens of political expediency, it's a gift to the Democrats every time the GOP rails against LGBT rights.

GOP has lost the Kulturkampf. And as someone else mentioned, the pace of the change in public support for LGBT rights has been dramatic.
07-26-2017 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
"I can discriminate, therefore I should"; the hottest of all takes
Not really, but if you start changing policies and spending millions of dollars every time a vocal extreme minority gets a head of steam going, you're probably going to have a bad time. There are a lot of subgroups out there who feel like the world owes them something.


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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Inso is the base Trump is shoring up with the transgender stuff.

Inso, does it make you forget about Sessions or that Trump never had any ideas about healthcare and just lied to suckers who's main policy agenda is sticking it to uppity libs? How's that working out? Has to be better than having some stuck up know it all lady as president.
Not to enrage you any further, but no. I'm pretty checked out of the whole process. Dems can't get anything done. Republicans are busy getting nothing done. There's nothing to get upset about. I am not a lib, and thus not triggered about every minor faux pas or pseudo-scandal of the Trump administration. Trump is a clown, but we knew that going in so it's not a surprise. I just like popping in every once in a while. I keep thinking you guys will run out batteries, but we're 7 months in with no sign of slowing down, so I guess this is the new normal.

The federal government being handicapped is probably a good thing at the end of the day.

Meanwhile, ol' Scott Walker and his posse have secured a $10 billion dollar investment in Wisconsin by FoxConn who will be building a literal village around a 20 million sq ft factory, leading to potentially tens of thousands of new jobs. Walker4Prez2020.com

I don't blame you guys, though. I'd undoubtedly post more if HRC was in office, and you would be the ones rolling your eyes at the outrage from the right. That's just how this political internet-warrior game works. You're fighting the good fight, soldier.

      
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