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07-26-2017 , 03:35 PM
What percentage of transgenders in the military are male to female vs female to male vs gender fluid/ other individuals?

Does anyone have a rough idea? Just curious, I imagine there's a lot more female to male than male to female due to the culture of the military.
07-26-2017 , 03:35 PM
the "ban trans soldiers from serving in ANY aspect of the military" tweet is directly related to the "we worship god in america" tweet, right?
07-26-2017 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Well his father was assassinated by Hezbollah so he may resent Hezbollah somewhat at least silly as that may seem.
07-26-2017 , 03:39 PM
Trump's transgender military ban is just his way of showing his SUPPORT for the LGBT, guys! I mean, he's protecting them from being killed on the battlefield!
07-26-2017 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
lolllllll at marrying Conway over Perry.
07-26-2017 , 03:43 PM
where are the bruce jenner tweets
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There are 15,000 patriotic transgender Americans in the US military fighting for all of us. What happened to your promise to fight for them?
there it is!

who woulda thunk it! Nice vote Caitlyn.
07-26-2017 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
Trump's transgender military ban is just his way of showing his SUPPORT for the LGBT, guys! I mean, he's protecting them from being killed on the battlefield!


seriously tho, trump is visioning doing jumping jacks over the media talking about this rather than all the worse negative **** that's going on/gone on.
07-26-2017 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
Well his father was assassinated by Hezbollah so he may resent Hezbollah somewhat at least silly as that may seem.
"his/he" being the Lebanese prime minister, what exactly does that have to do with Trump being clueless about the relationship between Lebanon and Hezbollah?
07-26-2017 , 03:49 PM
GOP list of people who can't possibly serve in the military or the US will end includes,

Women
African Americans
Homosexuals

Now it's transgender people.

How many times do we have to play the same game?
07-26-2017 , 03:50 PM
I think the play here is attempting to have some talking heads explode on national television, like a bad sci-fi movie where someone stimulates an android to the point of meltdown.

Will Rachel Maddow survive the opening monologue on her show tonight?

My favorite clip was the dem from CA who says, "We don't care who you love!" in response to the no Trans in the military thing. Even he can't keep all the oppressed minority groups straight, implying that all trans people are gay or some other "not normal" sexual orientation. It's a perfect example of what politics has become on both sides. Gotta stick to the script.

Does anyone have any actual stats on the number of people affected by this decision? Was the military ever really a "safe space" for people with gender dysphoria in the first place? I'd be shocked if it were more than a tenth of a percent of the overall military.

I think Trump had this meeting about the upcoming deadline for modifying military policy to accommodate gender reassignment surgeries, modifications to physical requirements, and policy changes for run of the mill personnel problems related to intolerant behaviors in the barracks, and while nobody was on board with making the changes, nobody actually wanted to be the guy in the room to suggest we just don't do it. Trump was probably bored with the awkward silence and just said, "**** it, I'll ban them. The media loves to hate me anyway, so it's fine" and got up and walked out of the room to find his phone.


Finally, LOL at the "Trump said God!!" people ITT. Atheist zealots are the worst kind of religious zealots from a rhetoric standpoint, AINEC.

What a truly spectacular ****show this has been so far. I can't wait for the 2020 campaign. Trump v. Chelsea Clinton.
07-26-2017 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
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It was not clear whether Trump was confused about that, or simply misspoke.
Anybody not clear on this hasn't been paying attention.

MSM is just being nice again (and normalization inevitably continues through no fault of anyone but Donald). Damage happens whether Trump does something or not.
07-26-2017 , 03:52 PM
PS - If it's too expensive to insure them, why stop at military? Why are trans people still able to be federal employees elsewhere?
07-26-2017 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
GOP list of people who can't possibly serve in the military or the US will end includes,

Women
African Americans
Homosexuals

Now it's transgender people.

How many times do we have to play the same game?
eh, I think they're just fine having african americans and brown people shoot at each other for their profit.
07-26-2017 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
That's what the lunatic is testing and testing. Will Sessions do anything that deserves a firing or will he just let Trump tear apart the DOJ and Rule of Law?
Every test succeeds. He's being conditioned to be an authoritarian. Positive reinforcement from trumpkins/Fox/etc and no real punishment from, well, anywhere.
07-26-2017 , 03:55 PM
Blessed are the factcheckers.


https://twitter.com/PolitiFact/statu...95795655880705
https://twitter.com/benpershing/stat...91553188671488
07-26-2017 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
I think the play here is attempting to have some talking heads explode on national television, like a bad sci-fi movie where someone stimulates an android to the point of meltdown.

Will Rachel Maddow survive the opening monologue on her show tonight?

My favorite clip was the dem from CA who says, "We don't care who you love!" in response to the no Trans in the military thing. Even he can't keep all the oppressed minority groups straight, implying that all trans people are gay or some other "not normal" sexual orientation. It's a perfect example of what politics has become on both sides. Gotta stick to the script.

Does anyone have any actual stats on the number of people affected by this decision? Was the military ever really a "safe space" for people with gender dysphoria in the first place? I'd be shocked if it were more than a tenth of a percent of the overall military.

I think Trump had this meeting about the upcoming deadline for modifying military policy to accommodate gender reassignment surgeries, modifications to physical requirements, and policy changes for run of the mill personnel problems related to intolerant behaviors in the barracks, and while nobody was on board with making the changes, nobody actually wanted to be the guy in the room to suggest we just don't do it. Trump was probably bored with the awkward silence and just said, "**** it, I'll ban them. The media loves to hate me anyway, so it's fine" and got up and walked out of the room to find his phone.


Finally, LOL at the "Trump said God!!" people ITT. Atheist zealots are the worst kind of religious zealots from a rhetoric standpoint, AINEC.

What a truly spectacular ****show this has been so far. I can't wait for the 2020 campaign. Trump v. Chelsea Clinton.
Why don't you deplorables ever talk about the people who get hurt by Trump's BS? Scoring political points? **** you, really.
07-26-2017 , 03:58 PM
cause inso probably doesnt even realize hes admitting it in every post.

Other people dont matter if it doesnt affect him, typical.

Last edited by Loki; 07-27-2017 at 07:47 PM.
07-26-2017 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Trump talks about underage girls a ton. And not in the standard creepy way narcissist olds objectify young adults. He talks about sex with adolescents and dating his daughter. 10/10 creep and scum.
A lot of people highlighted his insane Youngstown bit about illegal immigrants committing knife torture, but read the full quote,
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“And you’ve seen the stories about some of these animals. They don’t want to use guns because it’s too fast and it’s not painful enough. So they’ll take a young, beautiful girl, 16, 15, and others, and they slice them and dice them with a knife because they want them to go through excruciating pain before they die.”
while that is both insanely not true and insanely racist, uh, my dude you sort of accidentally told on yourself there with those hypothetical ages.
07-26-2017 , 04:02 PM
Amazing. God help us all if there is a true international crisis, because if Trump had a blank world map in front of him, i doubt he could fill in more than a handful of countries.

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President Trump lumped the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah among militants and terrorists he praised the government of Lebanon for fighting, saying during Rose Garden remarks Tuesday that the tiny Mideast nation was “on the front lines” of a shared battle against extremism.

The only problem? Hezbollah is a political partner of the man standing next to Trump, visiting Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0e416f67adbb
07-26-2017 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
I think the play here is attempting to have some talking heads explode on national television, like a bad sci-fi movie where someone stimulates an android to the point of meltdown.

Will Rachel Maddow survive the opening monologue on her show tonight?

My favorite clip was the dem from CA who says, "We don't care who you love!" in response to the no Trans in the military thing. Even he can't keep all the oppressed minority groups straight, implying that all trans people are gay or some other "not normal" sexual orientation. It's a perfect example of what politics has become on both sides. Gotta stick to the script.

Does anyone have any actual stats on the number of people affected by this decision? Was the military ever really a "safe space" for people with gender dysphoria in the first place? I'd be shocked if it were more than a tenth of a percent of the overall military.

I think Trump had this meeting about the upcoming deadline for modifying military policy to accommodate gender reassignment surgeries, modifications to physical requirements, and policy changes for run of the mill personnel problems related to intolerant behaviors in the barracks, and while nobody was on board with making the changes, nobody actually wanted to be the guy in the room to suggest we just don't do it. Trump was probably bored with the awkward silence and just said, "**** it, I'll ban them. The media loves to hate me anyway, so it's fine" and got up and walked out of the room to find his phone.


Finally, LOL at the "Trump said God!!" people ITT. Atheist zealots are the worst kind of religious zealots from a rhetoric standpoint, AINEC.

What a truly spectacular ****show this has been so far. I can't wait for the 2020 campaign. Trump v. Chelsea Clinton.
How does it feel to know that deep down inside that you are missing your soul? I can't imagine how much hate you must have inside of you. Were you abused as a child? Maybe a near death experience? Did your mom not love you? Something must have happened.
07-26-2017 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
cause inso probably doesnt even realize hes admitting it in every post.

Other people dont matter
Yeah, because "He said 'God'" is the exact problem with the tweet. It's a fascinating exercise to imagine how Inso0 would react if Trump was waterboarding him (and worse) while claiming God commanded it.

Last edited by Loki; 07-27-2017 at 07:48 PM. Reason: Removed quoted personal attack
07-26-2017 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
My favorite clip was the dem from CA who says, "We don't care who you love!" in response to the no Trans in the military thing. Even he can't keep all the oppressed minority groups straight, implying that all trans people are gay or some other "not normal" sexual orientation. It's a perfect example of what politics has become on both sides. Gotta stick to the script.
lol

Transgender ban is awful decision, Lieu says
07-26-2017 , 04:08 PM
How much is the military currently spending on gender reassignment surgeries?
07-26-2017 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
It's mild compared to the things Trump has said and done to China that they don't want.

Particularly, blaming them constantly for not putting pressure on North Korea after using up Xi's favors on Trump family trademarks and (illegal?) Kushner Visa sales.
Heard Fareed Zakaria talking about this on a podcast on Saturday. He said if you follow the sequence of events closely it started with Trump beginning his Presidency by talking to Taiwan before China. That resulted in the Chinese not even taking or returning any calls at all from the US government. Like none. So next Tillerson or someone was able to convince Trump to re-iterate the USA's 'one China' policy, to which the Chinese responded by approving a bunch of Chinese trademarks that the Trump organization had requested. Then during the meeting at Mar-a-lago they enacted more concessions by approving a bunch of trademarks for Ivanka Trump's products and services, and so on.

So Fareed says he was talking about that with a friend in China who told him that this is something the Chinese government is quite comfortable with and has been doing for a while with foreign leaders. Except as he pointed out, up until Trump the ones getting that sort of treatment have all been African dictators.
07-26-2017 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
you sort of accidentally told on yourself there with those hypothetical ages.
President Crastor does not want you looking at those 16, 15 year old girls. They're not for you Jon Snow.

      
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