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Ok, I'll play. Granted, I'm playing voluntarily, but if I absolute HAD to choose...

F: Huckabee
M: Conway
K: Perry

Reasoning for the decision between Huckabee and Conway is that while I would assume both would be awful spouses, I also assume Huckabee is WAY more far-right conservative Christian than Conway, which I wouldn't be able to stand. Conway, as horrible as she appears, also seems magnitudes more intelligent than Huckabee, at least based on her educational and professional history.

I'd probably add a fourth option after several years: K Myself.

Youre doing it wrong imo. Huckabeast wouldnt have a voice in my home, i'd be going full on 1954 on her. Stfu amd make my dinner before i beat the **** out of you for your insolence. A few of those will teach her to shut her goddamn mouth like a proper christian wife

07-26-2017 , 01:54 PM

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DisGunBGud

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Did Trump really post that about God? That's a direct violation of the 1st Amendment no?

07-26-2017 , 01:55 PM

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DisGunBGud

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Originally Posted by Chippa58

1A? Like first amendment? Unfortunately, I don't think that counts as a violation. God references generally don't fly into the face of the first amendment unless they favor one religion. If he had said Jesus rather than God, then you could attempt an argument, but even then, its not really a government sanctioning of religion in the same way that a Christian prayer in a public school would be for example.

Not all religions in this country believe in God though. So even if he isn't naming a religion he's clearly favoring those that recognize God by name.

07-26-2017 , 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud

Not all religions in this country believe in God though. So even if he isn't naming a religion he's clearly favoring those that recognize God by name.

Nevermind those that believe in multiple gods.

07-26-2017 , 02:00 PM

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lew189

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DisGunBGud

Did Trump really post that about God? That's a direct violation of the 1st Amendment no?

How so? Based on the text of the 1st amendment, the answer is clearly no.If anything it is that very amendment that grants him the freedom to make a comment like that.

07-26-2017 , 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Scott Adams is on recent episode of Waking Up which is Sam Harris' podcast. While I strongly disagreed with much of what he said he is not as nuts as I thought. It's a worthwhile view into a trumpkin. The closest thing I have seen to a somewhat rational defender of trump although much of his defense rests on the assumption that trump is always playing 4d chess.

Rofl this is one of the spiciest takes ive ever seen itt

07-26-2017 , 02:01 PM

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Clovis8

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Every president goes on an on about God. Isn't that standard?

07-26-2017 , 02:01 PM

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Chippa58

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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud

Not all religions in this country believe in God though. So even if he isn't naming a religion he's clearly favoring those that recognize God by name.

I don't think that's how the courts have interpreted this issue in the past. Non-denominational prayers are said before many government meetings. "In God we trust" is on our currency. It only becomes a first amendment issue when the government appears to endorse one religion over others.

Here's a case that makes that point.
http://www.leagle.com/decision/19891...%20ST.%20CLOUD

07-26-2017 , 02:03 PM

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Pence has been keeping his pimp had strong lately.

07-26-2017 , 02:04 PM

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How so? Based on the text of the 1st amendment, the answer is clearly no.If anything it is that very amendment that grants him the freedom to make a comment like that.

A government cannot favor any religion. Say we have 10 religions practiced in this country and 8 of them believe and worship God while the other 2 do not. How is his tweet not favoring?

God damn Pats fans.

07-26-2017 , 02:05 PM

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Trump no doubt saw this, look for him to repeat it soon

Uh yeah, that's pretty much the exact thing China doesn't want.

07-26-2017 , 02:05 PM

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DisGunBGud

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It's borderline insane that if he said Christianity instead of God he'd be in hot water when his context is very clear.

A nation under God is completely different than a nation that worships God in my book.

07-26-2017 , 02:09 PM

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Is this transgender tweet meant as a distraction or just FU libruls/treat for the base?

He is in trouble at Breitbart because they really like Sessions and don't want to see him go. His recent tweets and his speech about illegal immigrants slicing up teenage girls are most easily explained as pandering to them to lock in their support.

07-26-2017 , 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud

Did Trump really post that about God? That's a direct violation of the 1st Amendment no?

laws don't apply to Trump

07-26-2017 , 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud

Did Trump really post that about God? That's a direct violation of the 1st Amendment no?

Have you ever read the First Amendment?

07-26-2017 , 02:18 PM

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Fail. Scott Adams is worse than Sklansky. Lots of thought experiments with absurd premises divorced from reality. Pretty shocked to see you suckered by him considering how hard of a time you give DS.

07-26-2017 , 02:22 PM

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He's obviously fine saying that legally. Still tough to believe his tweets banning trans people from the military wasn't the dumbest thing tweeted by him today though.

07-26-2017 , 02:23 PM

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stringbettor

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Transgender stuff to keep people on board while he axes Sessions.

He's probably the God in that tweet.

07-26-2017 , 02:23 PM

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Uh yeah, that's pretty much the exact thing China doesn't want.

It's mild compared to the things Trump has said and done to China that they don't want.

Particularly, blaming them constantly for not putting pressure on North Korea after using up Xi's favors on Trump family trademarks and (illegal?) Kushner Visa sales.

07-26-2017 , 02:25 PM

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Not as much a 1A issue as a separation of church and state issue. He's not just talking religious worship, but he's pitting it against the laws and standards of our government.

07-26-2017 , 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud

"God bless the United States of America" - the signoff of every major presidential speech I can remember in my lifetime

07-26-2017 , 02:30 PM

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Fail. Scott Adams is worse than Sklansky. Lots of thought experiments with absurd premises divorced from reality. Pretty shocked to see you suckered by him considering how hard of a time you give DS.

I was hardly suckered. As I said it wasn't at all interesting as a defense of trump. He is indefensible. I just found it interesting from an anthropological perspective in terms of a view into the mind of trumpkin.

You don't have think serial killers are correct to find it interesting how their mind works. Adams is at least intelligent enough to articulate his position so you get a glimpse at his logic, however mistaken it is.

It's hard to find a trumpkin who can articulate their support. That was the interesting part.

07-26-2017 , 02:31 PM

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Public waterboarding of one the greatest people.

https://twitter.com/alanhe/status/890269444622123009

07-26-2017 , 02:33 PM

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The Dems will obviously **** this up, but if they are asked about the trans issue, the correct response is "Of course we want them in the military. We're fighting ISIS, and we want all the help we can get."