Does it not count as obstruction of justice or whatever if you flat-out lie during a congressional investigation? I guess it doesn't matter, since Sessions has shown us you can just lie under oath and it's nbd.

Its works like perjury from what i understand, so its alright.

It seems like you can lie a little bit and mislead a little bit because its hard to bring a solid case on these things, ppl can say they forgot etc.

Don't be fooled, it's not alright. Otherwise these 3 Trump guys would be under oath like the non-Trump people. It takes a few seconds to swear someone in.

To put it in terms even Trumpists can understand, here's a Breitbart article (ZOMG!) sticking it to Hillary for not being under oath during the Benghazi hearings. Guys like Grassley would point out the difference, even though guys like Grassley now say there's no difference. A crime is a crime, right?

Hillary Misled Congress-But Not Under Oath - Breitbart

They really aren't paying attention or caring.

Most Trump voters I know don't post or talk about politics now that the election is done. Everything is out of sight, out of mind until their daddy runs in 2020. They'll pull the lever for Trump and forget about politics for another 4 years.

To many of them it's no different than a sport. They were brought up cheering for the red team and cheer for them no matter what they do.

Thats a nice find, didnt know it was possible to learn something from that site.

Btw David got under heavy fire for posting a link to that site.


However, this is still better than not being under any legal jeaopardy for lying which was the scenario i feared, although the oath thing would certainly be preferrable.

I just moved to Park Slope, Brooklyn three months ago, where I have yet to meet a Trump supporter and where my new polling place voted 92.5% HRC, 4.3% DJT in November. Every apartment building has anti-Trump posters in the window, pride flags abound the entire neighborhood, "RESIST" all over the place, etc.

I love my liberal bubble.

Anyone see Huckabeast abort ABC this morning? One gem stood out boldly.

George Stephanopolis: Did you ever hear of a health plan for 21 year olds that costs $12 a year like the President claimed?

Beast: I haven't had a chance to research that. It's been a long time since I've been 21. All I know is I'd be happy to get that rate.

*palmface*

I feel sorry for you guys who don't know anyone on team Trump.

Meh. I know a bunch of Trumpers and they're either friends/family I grew up with in rural Maine or ****ty bootlicking middle management types who I know through my work.

I certainly like plenty of these people, and even love some of them, but that's very much in spite of their Trump support. Supporting DJT doesn't add anything valuable to their personality or my relationship with that person; it's a manifestation of the worst parts of them.

The Trump supporters I know aren't all racist/sexist/greedy/stupid whatever, but the parts of them that compelled them to vote for Trump are. I don't consider it a loss in any way to have less of that in my life.

Care to elaborate?

He must mean how nice it is to be far superior to those around you. Imagine if you were the only non-trumpkin in a town. It would be like being an alien. Your intelligence, by comparison, would be indistinguishable from magic to them.

The problem with being smarter than everyone else around you is that they usually aren't smart enough to know it and treat you accordingly :P

Not sure if it was you, but did you move from the Trumpland, NYC ie Staten Island?

potd

Yep, that's me.

Staten Island is heavily polarized. Northern half, pretty Democratic and racially diverse; southern half, all older generation whites, heavily Republican. Overall it went 57% DJT, 40.5% HRC, in stark contrast to the rest of the city (interestingly, Obama won there in 2012 by 2pts)

Could of swore I saw that car again the other day sans sticker. Will keep you guys updated on this breaking news.

If you are living a life surrounded only by people with one political view, that's incredibly lame. It doesn't matter if they are Trumpkins or Bernie Bros or I'm With Her people or whatever. If you aren't interacting with different types of people you aren't going to have a good understanding of why things happen in the world.

Being a trump supporter is not a political view. It has virtually nothing to do with politics at all.

Wait for the owner then exchange pleasantries then tell the owner you are a big trump supporter and want to join his cause to MAGA.

Once you infiltrate his group we will take the next step. God Speed Fatkid.

Support for a politician is not a political view?

Normally I would agree with this, but the current cycle includes so many issues where one side is driven purely by bigotry and xenophobia (immigration, LGBTQ, racial stuff, "religious freedom") that these are not people I would want to spend my time around. I mean, I could freely be friends with a Republican supporter of someone like Charlie Baker or Brian Sandoval, but I have no interest in going for beers with someone whose Twitter header is "#MAGA Constitutional Conservative" who thinks that coal mining has gone downhill because Jesus is punishing the wicked for baby killing and gay marriage.

Is it really the case that, say, Riverman, who lives in some midwestern hellhole, has any better an understanding of the Trump phenomenon than people living in a liberal bubble?

Basically this. If you try to identify "the Trump agenda" or "the Trump doctrine", what the hell is that exactly? Beyond pandering to ethnocentrism (stuff like the wall) and platitudes like MAGA, Trumpism is just totally incoherent.

What markksman said. I know Republicans, Libertarians, Bernie Bros and Sisters, Marxists and Anarchists. No Trumpkins that I know of (though I have at least one work friend who I have avoided talking politics with since Trump.). The one customer who I talked politics with who is a Trumpkin is an older Filipino man who is big into Dutarte.

If Trump ceased to exist then so would Trumpism, it has no reality as an ideology outside the man himself. It's more like a fan club than a political ideology.