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02-02-2017 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by champstark
Sounds like he did a poor job of picking a staff to help navigate everything if that was the case.
I was young but from what I remember California was basically in a place where we needed a combination of budget cuts and tax increases, a tough place for any politician so he was in over his head from the beginning

Moonbeam has been doing great though
02-02-2017 , 11:44 AM
This can't be true. Someone has to tell him pandering to the base is good politically but bad governance.

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The Trump administration wants to revamp and rename a U.S. government program designed to counter all violent ideologies so that it focuses solely on Islamist extremism, five people briefed on the matter told Reuters.

The program, "Countering Violent Extremism," or CVE, would be changed to "Countering Islamic Extremism" or "Countering Radical Islamic Extremism," the sources said, and would no longer target groups such as white supremacists who have also carried out bombings and shootings in the United States.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id..._medium=Social
02-02-2017 , 11:45 AM
If the Trump administration is overthrown McCain will be behind it.
02-02-2017 , 11:50 AM
The speaker should be elevated to the adult table
02-02-2017 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
sup guys
this trump dude is outta control its super entertaining!
I was wondering 2 things:
-anyone here voted for trump and starting to regret it(a bit)? would love to hear dont be shy
-what u guys think of the US president pretty intensive use of twitter and (im not a native english speaker so it might be just me) the way he express himself(very brut and vulgary style,kinda sounds like a kids talk)?

are u guys in the US freaking out

edit:I suppose he has armies of advisers and speech writers so that language style he uses has to be intended.
right>?
Hi weeeez, trump comes across as a moron to me, but i've gotten use to his twitter habits. The way he structure his sentences seems worse than most kids.
02-02-2017 , 12:19 PM
Anyone know what time the White House press briefings are?

I need my morning Spice.
02-02-2017 , 12:25 PM


12:30 pm

Last edited by yeSpiff; 02-02-2017 at 12:29 PM. Reason: +30min
02-02-2017 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
This can't be true. Someone has to tell him pandering to the base is good politically but bad governance.



http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id..._medium=Social
lol governance, feed the base feed the base feed the base. their loyalty will go up and up and up and up and nobody will be able to stop them.
02-02-2017 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
If the Trump administration is overthrown McCain will be behind it.
Guess we're ****ed then.
02-02-2017 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I don't want the left to get into a war of unsupported claims, because there's no way we win on that front. OTOH, I have a ton of confidence that if we dig in and investigate, we'll find that Trump genuinely screwed the pooch.
Ugh. You are approaching the game wrong. It's not about a "war of unsupported" claims, it's about pushing your narrative.

The right doesn't simply succeed by throwing unsupported claims around in a vacuum and hoping they will overwhelm the listener. They push claims that feed into pre-existing narratives that the base agrees with. It takes advantage of confirmation bias and makes the need for fact-checking less relevant -- if one story turns out to be untrue or less true than it initially appeared, the base does not care because they still believe the overarching narrative. Maybe the most significant political lesson from Trump's campaign was just how powerful this concept is.

You can see this on the liberal side, too. The dominant narrative on the left right now is that Trump has authoritarian tendencies. If someone points out that Trump action X has a parallel in Obama action Y, does the narrative fall apart? Of course not - Obama was not an authoritarian and Trump is. I am not trying to point out liberal hypocrisy here, although of course it exists to a degree. I am just pointing out how these individual incidents get batched together into a broader political message whether or not they fit neatly into that message.

The narrative we're talking about re: this botched raid is "Trump is incompetent." There's tons of debate to be had about the extent to which that applies to this particular incident, but missing the opportunity to push that narrative because we can't 100% verify it is a political error, through and through.
02-02-2017 , 12:52 PM
**** if that criminal bitch was the president we would already be sending troops to protect the interest of the clinton foundation.

as far as the protestors and rioters, go burn down a walmart and see how fast military law comes down, or go burn down most of marthas vineyard or something to make a statement. Throwing **** throw downtown windows makes the protestors look more stupid than the president
02-02-2017 , 01:00 PM




McCain putting a litmus test out there?
02-02-2017 , 01:01 PM
Man if you told me I'd be sweating White House pressers 10 years ago I'd have freaked the **** out.
02-02-2017 , 01:01 PM
Oh, he sent a strongly worded letter?
02-02-2017 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
lol
02-02-2017 , 01:05 PM
Haven't watched one of these live yet. Just been getting summaries through you guys.
02-02-2017 , 01:07 PM
@Dvault's recent posts

Trumpers don't care if he ****s up military missions. Reagan sent the military to invade Grenada using cartoony maps on tourist brochures. If you make a big deal over Yemen they think you are concern trolling and hate you and love Trump all the more for it.

I guess this line of attack is supposed to work on the serious McCain/Romney Republicans who were supposed to stop Trump from the beginning.

Remember, Trumpers watch commercials for Trump University and still think he's a business genius.
02-02-2017 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
This can't be true. Someone has to tell him pandering to the base is good politically but bad governance.



http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id..._medium=Social
White nationalist president unconcerned with white nationalist extremists. It's the most "story checks out" of all time
02-02-2017 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
@Dvault's recent posts

Trumpers don't care if he ****s up military missions. Reagan sent the military to invade Grenada using cartoony maps on tourist brochures. If you make a big deal over Yemen they think you are concern trolling and hate you and love Trump all the more for it.

I guess this line of attack is supposed to work on the serious McCain/Romney Republicans who were supposed to stop Trump from the beginning.

Remember, Trumpers watch commercials for Trump University and still think he's a business genius.
The point is not to convince die hards that Trump sucks.
02-02-2017 , 01:16 PM
I wonder if Trump will officially put Russia on notice.
02-02-2017 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
Can one of the board Californians explain how Arnold wrecked your state? Serious question, I've just heard he did tons of terrible **** but have no idea what actually happened. He seems relatively moderate based on what I've heard.
Arnold was ok. Great for a Republican.
02-02-2017 , 01:22 PM
https://www.treasury.gov/resource-ce...170202_33.aspx

Lifting sanctions relating to certain transactions with the FSB. Incredible.
02-02-2017 , 01:23 PM
Nothing like YouTube comments scrolling past a White House briefing.
02-02-2017 , 01:23 PM
That's legit impeachable. He's obviously a Putin stooge. Do insane **** at home to deflect from the Russia stuff.
02-02-2017 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Gonna play devil's advocate here: do we know this was Trump ****ing up, or is this a case of the military handing him a bad plan to sign off on? I sorta doubt Trump played any role in deciding the operational details of what went down. Like, the fact pattern could easily be some general ****ing up, giving Trump a bad gameplan, and now covering his ass by blaming Trump on social media.
Sigh.

      
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