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07-19-2017 , 02:05 PM

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Our House

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

so trump today wants GOP to pass a bill or else don't leave town

yesterday it was let obamacare fail

the day before it was repeal it now and replace it later

great ****ing job electing this guy as president you ****ing idiots.

He also said anyone who doesn't vote for his bill is "not a friend" and "saying that they support Obamacare."

07-19-2017 , 02:13 PM

#46327

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There was supposed to be a Judiciary hearing this morning on Russian lobbying. Anyone know why Chuck Grassley decided "Nah" and canceled it last minute with no reason?

07-19-2017 , 02:16 PM

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BABARtheELEPHANT

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tired of #winning yet? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ft-power-study

07-19-2017 , 02:19 PM

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Today show segment this morning with Trump supporters in Wilkes-Barre, PA. Lots of white olds. Cliffs: they think people criticizing Trump should "shut up". One fat guy at a diner said his friends laugh every day at the "fake Russia nonsense". He said, "It's not collusion, it's an illusion". Wonder which right-wing talk radio moron he got that line from.

07-19-2017 , 02:25 PM

#46330

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

Reminds me of his Israeli/Palestinian peace brokering. "One state solution, two state solution, whatever you guys come up with". Or something to that effect.

07-19-2017 , 02:33 PM

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Today show segment this morning with Trump supporters in Wilkes-Barre, PA. Lots of white olds. Cliffs: they think people criticizing Trump should "shut up". One fat guy at a diner said his friends laugh every day at the "fake Russia nonsense". He said, "It's not collusion, it's an illusion". Wonder which right-wing talk radio moron he got that line from.

Pretty sure that's straight from the WH/Kellyanne:

07-19-2017 , 02:35 PM

#46332

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I'll give credit to America's Rust Belt fatties and olds, they've convinced the media they are America's non-partisan arbiters and the media loves these journeys out to talk to them to discover they're still out there, fed up and angry and repeating what they heard on Fox News, same as it was for the past 20 years.

But wait, maybe NOW, with Trump failing conspicuously? No, still wedded to whatever the Fox News talking points are, thanks for stopping by, see you next September for the midterm prep pieces where Wilkes-Barre diner patrons will remind you to leave Trump alone and keep it Foever MAGA.

07-19-2017 , 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fatkid

I have a feeling it's worse than pee.

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Originally Posted by Bdidd

But what could be worse than ....ewwwww!!

Lol.

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Originally Posted by MicroPimpin

I wonder how young the girl would have to be for his base to consider it worse than kissing another man?

13 or 14 is the cutoff IMO.

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Originally Posted by Our House

Then explain why so many situations involve GOPers going directly against their (attributed) self interests. Especially those who are party leaders, or committee members, or Vice Presidents. And those who have had their personal and work computers hacked by Russia.

Why is GOP blocking sanctions against Russia? Why are they deflecting from taking actions to tighten up security? Why are they tearing apart voting oversight and replacing it all with Trump's fraud commission. And much much more. What do any of these actions have to do with them profiting from legislation, getting reelected in 2018/20, or staying off the radar of Mueller's team and other investigators?

They may be fighting for their self interests, but those interests appear to be Russian.

I'm not saying you're definitely wrong, I'm just saying I don't think it is necessary to explain most of their actions. I think the idea that the entire GOP Congress is compromised by Russia is fairly far fetched.

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or Vice Presidents.

It's certainly possible Pence is compromised although it's not clear what he is supposed to do to seize power at this point if Congress is not cooperating.

There may very well be a few key players who are compromised but "the whole GOP", ehh, I'm not saying it's impossible but it doesn't seem like the most likely explanation.

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Pretty sure that's straight from the WH/Kellyanne:

Lol wtf is that?

07-19-2017 , 02:56 PM

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don't worry, everything will be much better by lunchtime!

07-19-2017 , 03:07 PM

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Trump ends covert CIA program to arm anti-Assad rebels in Syria, a move sought by Moscow

Even those who were skeptical about the program’s long-term value, viewed it as a key bargaining chip that could be used to wring concessions from Moscow in negotiations over Syria’s future.

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07-19-2017 , 03:12 PM

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Lol wtf is that?

I can tell you what it's not: a photoshop.

07-19-2017 , 03:20 PM

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Even those who were skeptical about the program’s long-term value, viewed it as a key bargaining chip that could be used to wring concessions from Moscow in negotiations over Syria’s future.

Who needs bargaining chips when POTUS is BFF with Putin? I'm sure ol' Vlad is just waiting to give Donny whatever his little heart desires in exchange for all the great **** he's gotten so far.

07-19-2017 , 03:21 PM

#46338

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so much winning. so many tremendous deals.

07-19-2017 , 03:26 PM

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Lol wtf is that?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...e-conway-paper

07-19-2017 , 03:35 PM

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If you want republican olds to memba a talking point just make sure it rhymes lmao

07-19-2017 , 03:47 PM

#46341

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Originally Posted by Jules22

If you want republican olds to memba a talking point just make sure it rhymes lmao

trump supporters are, to me, starting to look more and more like OJ Simpson defenders. and this is the defense team trying to channel johnny cochran but way ****tier because all i got out of it was "conclusion: collusion"

07-19-2017 , 03:51 PM

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If you want republican olds to memba a talking point just make sure it rhymes lmao

It doesn't even have to rhyme, it just needs to be repeated by every moron on Fox for a day or so and it'll sink right into their dopey old skulls.

07-19-2017 , 04:03 PM

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Lol wtf is that?

That's your dead, dead, dead pony.

07-19-2017 , 04:03 PM

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I'm trying to imagine the poly sci professor who taught DVaut about the role of political parties to coordinate messaging among their supporters. He's now rewriting his lesson plan to put that screenshot in his powerpoint to demonstrate how crude yet spectacularly effective Kellyann was to get derper morons repeating her talking point to MSM on air talent.

07-19-2017 , 04:04 PM

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i like how 6 months into trump's presidency he tells the senate they shouldn't leave town until they come up with a bill. this ****in guy leaves town every weekend to promote his privately owned businesses! part time president

07-19-2017 , 04:09 PM

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Yeah, he's definitely scoring more points with senators. He's aiming for Ted Cruz levels of popularity with the Senate. [To quote Al Franken, "You have to understand that I like Ted Cruz probably more than my colleagues like Ted Cruz, and I hate Ted Cruz."]

07-19-2017 , 04:14 PM

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He hasn't held any press conferences over it, no town halls, nothing to try and pitch the American people on it. The guy hasn't been selling health care at all, it's not even clear he knows what's in the bill.

07-19-2017 , 04:43 PM

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It's very clear he has no ****ing idea what's in the bill or even how legislation works.

07-19-2017 , 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bigt2k4

I know everyone in here is smart enough to now that Russia is super evil, but if you want even more of an idea on just how crazy Russia is, then read this book:
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Notice-Fi.../dp/1476755744

edit: odd timing of my Bill Browder post, given I started writing it before the post above

I am not smart enough to see Russia as evil. Are we still thinking in the category that the US is the shining force of good who yields gods sword and everyone who opposed t them is evil?