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07-16-2017 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Man, the inside of Garrison's head must be like a 5 ball multiball pinball game.
I think it was on one of the Chapo reading series episodes where they point out that so many of these right-wing guys compulsively have to stick every grievance into every piece of work they produce.
07-16-2017 , 06:44 PM
And the biggest "oops" in the Federalist Papers, due to a lack of proper appreciation--though appreciation there was--of the role of parties/factions when discussing the role of the electoral college.

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It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.

It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief. The choice of several, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community with any extraordinary or violent movements, than the choice of one who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes. And as the electors, chosen in each State, are to assemble and vote in the State in which they are chosen, this detached and divided situation will expose them much less to heats and ferments, which might be communicated from them to the people, than if they were all to be convened at one time, in one place.
http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/documents/...eralist-68.php
07-16-2017 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus View Post
Man, the inside of Garrison's head must be like a 5 ball multiball pinball game.
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
I think it was on one of the Chapo reading series episodes where they point out that so many of these right-wing guys compulsively have to stick every grievance into every piece of work they produce.
One of the better insights of What's the Matter With Kansas, now 10+ years old, is how much the right-wing is getting via completely inchoate cultural criticisms and building it into a complete story of liberal decadence and degeneracy for their audience. He called them plen-t-plaints, like those packs of gum with a bunch of different flavors.

Oh, over here, a transgender bathroom. Over there, we can't build a housing development because of an endangered insect. And now look at this, this guy is getting sued because of a joke he heard on Seinfeld and told to an uppity feminist co-worker. And we can't even say Merry Christmas Christ is Risen anymore!

All of this exists in the realm of fantasy and conjecture, or has some basis in fact but no fundamental basis in fact if you know what I mean. All of these folklore stories are traded amongst white people about how political correctness is really undoing everything. At first the incoherence seems like a bug but as you listen to it, it's pretty clearly a feature. It's a reflex, like M2B says. You REALLY prove your right-wing bonafides by creating and repeating narrative yarns where all sorts of trivial and innocuous slights and confusing stories you hear about the world meld together into a conspiracy of liberals to undo your way of life. The right wing pundit class is merely aping the audience, giving them what they want, which is reminders of a scary and bewildering vast conspiracy and web of enemies beset against white folks.
07-16-2017 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
1973 Release for Nixon Supporters

Art buchwald was a satirist.
07-16-2017 , 07:22 PM
I'm not saying I earnestly hope McCain would pull a Ted Kennedy with regard to healthcare (i.e., die), but my time in mourning would be brief.
07-16-2017 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
I think it was on one of the Chapo reading series episodes where they point out that so many of these right-wing guys compulsively have to stick every grievance into every piece of work they produce.
It was whatever one was the future-dystopian novel where there's been a schism and the coasts are socialist while the flyovers are MAGAland. One of the characters' internal monologues mentions the Fairness Doctrine.

The Fairness Doctrine ended in 1987, just for context.
07-16-2017 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by zoltan
Art buchwald was a satirist.
That's really really sad. Nixon satire matches up with real life Trump?
07-16-2017 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
That's really really sad. Nixon satire matches up with real life Trump?
Maybe satirist in the same way cilizza and Milbank are satirists. Granted it was a bit before my time but I suspect the mood of divisiveness wasn't all that different than right now.
07-16-2017 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Bet there is more of a market now for straight news with all the obsession about Russia on the talking heads news channels. Be nice if someone gave it a go but they wont.
Yeah something like the original headline news would be beneficial but it obviously wasn’t drawing the kind of audience they wanted.

They would just have 20 minutes of news and rerun it every 30 minutes. They would update it a few times a day but they could still use set pieces. If breaking news actually happened they could cover it live.

It got a foothold being in hotel rooms, bars and other places where a quick synopsis of current events / news would be beneficial. Nobody is going to subsidize that kind of channel, especially with the dynamic of cable/satellite real estate.
07-16-2017 , 08:46 PM
Must. Not. Make. Tasteless. Classless. Comments. About. Being. Very. Concerned.
07-16-2017 , 08:52 PM
Every month or so there is a revelation or WH action that makes you all run out and declare "no way Trump can survive this!" and then in a week or two it fades away. We are in the middle of a fade right now. It's fun to watch, oh and What about Chappaquiddick?
07-16-2017 , 09:09 PM
Your worldview is a joke
07-16-2017 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
Ben Franklin would definitely figure out how to use it to aid in masturbation immediately.
Just like everyone else.
07-16-2017 , 09:37 PM
The Founding Fathers are in all of us.
07-16-2017 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Must. Not. Make. Tasteless. Classless. Comments. About. Being. Very. Concerned.
About McCain? Yeah, he dying imo.
07-16-2017 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf


LOL Jesus Christ
Seriously. This is the same Cliven Bundy who gave us this gem:

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I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro. When I go to Las Vegas, north Las Vegas, and I would see these little Government houses, and in front of that Government house the door was usually open, and the older people and the kids and there was always at least half a dozen people on the porch. They didn't have nothing to do, they didn't have nothing for the kids to do, they didn't have nothing for the young girls to do. They were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn't get no more freedom. They got less freedom.
07-16-2017 , 10:09 PM
Given its Roger Stone I assumed it was Ted Bundy.
07-16-2017 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
The Founding Fathers are in all of us.
the founding fathers would kick all your asses
07-16-2017 , 10:40 PM
6 foot 20 ****ing killing for fun
07-16-2017 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by poconoder
Every month or so there is a revelation or WH action that makes you all run out and declare "no way Trump can survive this!"
Examples? I can't think of a single thing that has made people here predict Trump's imminent fall. The Don Jr. emails are the worst thing yet and even then everyone here recognizes impeachment has to be a Republican-led process and Republicans clearly aren't there yet.
07-16-2017 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
About McCain? Yeah, he dying imo.
Just going to have to put this health-care thing off indefinitely then oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
07-16-2017 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Examples? I can't think of a single thing that has made people here predict Trump's imminent fall. The Don Jr. emails are the worst thing yet and even then everyone here recognizes impeachment has to be a Republican-led process and Republicans clearly aren't there yet.
Comey's firing and the circus of contradicting statements afterward and his subsequent testimony but mostly his firing. Everyone here (including me) were saying that was it for this guy. There have been other things itt but that's the strongest people have felt about something actually happening to him. He's pretty much correct in his statement *shrug*.
07-16-2017 , 11:43 PM
McCain’s Surgery May Be More Serious Than Thought, Experts Say
https://nyti.ms/2vrYlaN
07-17-2017 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
Comey's firing and the circus of contradicting statements afterward and his subsequent testimony but mostly his firing. Everyone here (including me) were saying that was it for this guy. There have been other things itt but that's the strongest people have felt about something actually happening to him. He's pretty much correct in his statement *shrug*.
No. Pretty sure I always thought nothing would happen, to the point of even incorrectly predicting nothing would happen to Flynn. Would love to see quotes of anywhere near "everybody" predicting it's over. Sorry, you got overexcited.
07-17-2017 , 12:07 AM
man you know you're a terrible poster when you go to bat for the russian spambot and its latest nonsensical/halfassed talking point

      
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