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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
The second you mention that the system was set up to temper and, when necessary, override the will of the people, you get the charges of elitism and that that's the reason the founders should *****.
So, the US established the most democratic, participatory government that had ever existed in a nation close to its size and scope, against ceaseless criticism that no such system had ever worked in a serious nation state in the prior 2000 years, and the system they created undergirded the development of the most powerful nation in the history of the world for over 200 years, but the founders should be criticized because they were elitists? (And in an agrarian society without univeral literacy).
Part of the point of the Constitution was to prevent Trump, but they knew he was a possibility. Hence the 4-year term limit and other checks on executive power.
Now, I have to admit, I've sometimes had Skalanskyite fever dreams of limiting the electorate to only those who know a bit about history and government and are not, say, in the thrall of some religious or other delusion. However, certainly in the modern world, democracy is legitimized by universal suffrage. In fact, more than anything, democracy is not about the elevation of the best or wisest government, but about the legitimacy of government, so (ideally) a nation can focus on doing the peoples business, ensuring domestic tranquility, protection against foreign interests, etc. and not internal struggles over legitimacy and whether elections were fair, etc. ("If I lose, the election will have been rigged!"--a deeply unpatriotic claim.)
Point is, complaining that the founders were "too elitist" is like complaining that trains in the 19th-century only went 50 mph or that you've seen better card tricks than the one my dog has mastered.