That.

Plus apparently he's at 50% in counties he won.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/firs...is-win-n783151

LOL Jesus Christ

So, CNN said that Boris Epshtyn's company Sinclair Broadcasting has been taking over news stations at the local level and pushing state run propaganda worse than Fox. Stuff like how the states are in contempt for not complying with the voter fraud commission and kit willingly handing over personal voter info, etc.

EDIT: This is no joke. I think they said Sinclair had taken over 171 local stations so far with sights on dozens more in the very near future.

Then we best get on it. Where are we at now? Public protest? What does civil disobedience look like? And how does that differ from open revolt?

I don't know much about it, but why does there have to be a higher authority? Are you saying congress is the only acting body that can bring charges for criminal acts? If I perjure myself on a witness stand, or intentionally provide misleading and false information on a police report, or falsify a loan document, who holds me accountable? Certainly not congress. But I'll bet there'd be someone around who could press charges against me.

Why can't we form an ACLU type of entity full of lawyers who will act on the people's behalf to press charges against these illegal acts? Why do we have to rely on congress to do its job?

Jesus Christ at least the other reporters who do this **** scam a free trip to Youngstown out of their editors, this dip**** is just misrepresenting statistics.

Not sure if it was posted, but Roger Stone's testimony with the House Intel Committee was postponed the other day, after he made a blatant threat against Congressman Eric Swalwell calling him a coward and saying he's gonna regret it for the rest of his life if he shows up at the hearing to question Stone.

Are these guys TRYING to test the law or what?

roger stone knows his pardon is coming, he's living it up

Literally all the facts of the Don Jr. email sitch can be communicated in a few minutes. Any other newsworthy stuff in a day, in 10 or 15. What are they supposed to do to fill the other 23.5+ hours?

I would start by discussing and repeating things just in case all the weekly viewers didn't happen to tune in over the last 15 minutes.

You don't think that there are important things which are getting virtually no coverage?

If need be I can make a list, but it'd take some work to compile. I'd prefer if you just said, "oh yeah, duh."

Civil Disobedience
http://www.transcendentalists.com/ci...sobedience.htm

Letter from a Birmingham Jail
https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Article...irmingham.html

A Selective List of Historic Civil Disobedience Actions
http://archives.nwtrcc.org/civil_disobedience.php

Eugene V. Debs
The Canton, Ohio, Speech
(June 16, 1918)
http://history.hanover.edu/courses/e...s/111debs.html


South Korean Protesters Call for Their President to Step Down
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/20...p-down/508907/

Am actually surprised and disappointed there is not more of that especially with how well the womens march went. We can get them out of there if we had a few million person marches on Washington.

Sigh. Trump pretending to defend Democracy now?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...44734788997125

When his son doesn't even see the people on the other side of the democracy coin as people thats a hard sell.

I think you're having two different discussions.

Lestat is making a basically rubish critique of cable news, insisting it only report FACTS. But in context, cable news has 24h of programming to fill and there's just not a market to recite facts 24h a day. People want punditry, perspectives, opinions, arguments. I'm not suggesting CNN actually has a good business model but I'm confident Lestat's notion that a cable news network which dismisses all of their editorializing and pundit yelling and sticks strictly to reciting agreed upon facts would be a complete non-entity in the market. It's not a thing because as Double Down down says, there's simply no audience for 24h fact coverage.

I don't think Double Down is saying CNN is giving the appropriate amount of coverage to the correct issues or that CNN's arranging pundits like Hollywood Squares is some marvelous way to transmit news and information. Simply that Lestat's ideal is a non-starter.

The way to completely unhinge this administration is definitely to go after the trump scions. he goes nuts when ivanka/dj/eric/jared are accused of anything. The weird thing is that the kids don't help each other really. Some interview quote about their sibling being amazing, but other than that no one takes responsibility for anything. trump does way more to defend them and implicate himself. that's a great attack vector for the resistance.

Seems like a lot of his fans acknowledge it and favor it. I think this article below gets to it in a summary way, upon noting the similarities between potential Senate candidate Kid Rock and Trump. Not sure if Kid Rock's Senate run is serious (remember lots of people never thought Trump would really run), but if you go onto Twitter, /r/The_Don, 4chan, Free Republic, article comments on Breitbart, etc. wherever you the collected wisdom of deplorable opinions you can see that plenty of people take Kid Rock's Senate run seriously and want it to happen.

Kid Rock’s Senate Run Is a Terrifying New Normal

I think this about gets to it. Being a blowhard narcissist is a feature, not a bug. I get a little anxious in modern American when so many assume that when it comes to Kid Rock or Trump or Cliven Bundy or that Duck Dynasty guy or whatever ******* becomes a figurative right-wing folk hero for transgressing normal behavior and being an aggressive idiot that we assume their fans simply don't recognize the reality, that they just don't grasp the failures and extreme obnoxiousness of their heros.

These people like Trump are openly, eagerly and happily embraced by the right. We need to start taking THAT seriously. It's not happenstance, it's BECAUSE they are aggressive narcissist bullies and blowhards. Really the modern right, if it's defined by anything, is that boring pedestrian and pleasant right wing *******s have gotten far too boring and appear far too beta for the deplorable set. They need the titillation, the action, the ritual humiliations, the disgrace. They want this sort of personality in the lead; they crave it deeply now. What that says about where they're at mentally is perhaps for another day but we should definitely stop denying the mindset.

idk if RCP is in the tank for Trump, but when they include this poll in their average they put 39% approval instead of 36%, even though you can click through to it and see the 36.

I didn't read Lestat's pay and was just responding to DD. There is a middle ground though.

As a slight aside, I am reading the LA Times as we type and the first Russia piece is on page 11. Iraq and healthcare both made the front page.

One thing that's funny about this - noted pizzagater and permabanned 2+2er VMF used to crow about the IBD poll around election time, which I think had Trump winning the popular vote.

Those guys currently have his approval at 37%!

It's not bullying the right thinks is the most virtuous personal characteristic, it's anti-intellectualism.

Folksiness and "common sense" are the church of the American right. It's THE source of nearly everything that is wrong with America.

It's why the right;

hates government;
does not believe in climate change;
hates science;
runs a war against the media;
but loves Fox news;
has a tea party;
is racist;
is anti-globalist;
is xenophobic;
always favor the least expierenced person for every job;
elected Trump; and
will elect Kid Rock.

The greatest sin of the right is being an expert in something.

CNN did/does the straight news thing with the Headline News channel. The fact that I don't know whether that's still on the air tells you what you need to know.

So he's a glass half full kind of guy? I'd say that's exactly what America needs in a president!

John Oliver did a piece on this a couple of weeks ago. The propaganda is really scary. Look it up on YouTube.

wtf is this ****? "We" already got on it. You weren't there. The movement spluttered to a halt due to astounding levels of non-participation and apathy. But now you're fired up, ready to go? Well that's just fantastic. You can start by calling your elected officials, and if we have any more protests you can show the heck up next time.

God damn if this country doesn't deserve exactly what's happening to it.