don jr forwarded the email chain to kushner a year ago, and kushner's lawyers within the last few weeks found it while reviewing his correspondence to update his security clearance. they amended the proper disclosure forms, and somebody saw the forms and got the story out that way. sounds reasonable

As I said yesterday, why assume complexity about the leak? Why not assume literally one of the guys copied on the email (the tabloid journalist guy)? He works in media, he would have known plenty of people in media, the value of possessing that kind of information, and how to extract the most for himself.

Or: why not Don Jr or someone in their circle simply forwarding the email around and bragging about how they were about to get the goods on HRC, straight from Moscow, what a coup. Seems totally plausible too. All it would take is one haphazard forward, perhaps way down the chain from Don Jr himself.

When it comes to the entire Trump orbit, isn't the whole game for them a bunch of media posturing and self-aggrandizement? The persistent leaks seem entirely wrapped up in their joie de vivre, part of their essential spirit. Chatting about all the exciting stuff they're up to, mugging it on TV, possessing gossip, tawdry innuendo, etc. etc. is their principle life currency beyond Daddy's billions. Totally believable Trump forwarded the email to a trusted circle of his closest 35 friends and contacts in media or something incredibly stupid like that. What we see now as nefarious criminal documentation, it's entirely plausible that in the moment Don Jr. thought was an exciting new development and an opportunity to inflate his role and deliver for Daddy and he wanted everyone in their circles to know he was about to get handed some great HRC dirt due to his networking and wheeling and dealing.

I don't follow American papers enough to know if there's endless amount of non-stories that are full of anon sources. But I have worked at mass media outlets and had to use sources that wanted to remain annonymous constantly in "real" stories (like, obv nothing highly important, i'm no Woodward and Bernstein).

I think that the negative effects of obsessing over annonymous sources are potentially way worse than the actual damage done by made-up stories, if such exist to an alarming degree.

But MSNBC's liberal slant is center ground in any other western nation. It's Fox & Co. that are way outside the bounds of normality anywhere else in the world.

That Mitch Album transgression was pretty weak sauce. Certainly he shouldn’t have done it but it was more a factor of stupid newspapers preparing weekend stories and requiring them days in advance. That a couple of guys didn’t attend the gam3 they had planned on attending is pretty meh. It is certainly very minor compared to many of the other examples.

Fredo is going to get out of charges when they prove in court that he has the mental facilities of a 8 year old.

It was a long time ago and my memory may be fuzzy but it seems like it was a bit more than what you described. It would be one thing if he oopsed and got some facts wrong while trying to beat a deadline, you can always correct the story in next day's paper or whatever. But I believe they investigated and concluded that he just made that **** up and that was what got him into hot water. (feel free to correct this but that's how I remember it)

Doesn't work for black guys in texas.

Where's Inso?

I didn't say their slants were equal. I don't watch a lot of FOX but I will take your word that they are distorted to the extent that they shouldn't really be considered a part of the "mainstream" media.

His father suffers from the same condition as President leading our country. Only problem is he's President leading our country.

Plus there was that guy in season 5 of The Wire.


Although there's a lot of truth in what Dvaut is saying. When you're a professional journalist and writing stories every day it becomes remarkably easy to fabricate them. You already know all the details necessary to invent plausible stories, because you've written plausible stories for so long. Then one day you have a deadline and also have to get to the kid's recital or something and lo and behold you fabricate. A news outlet that never had this happen to them would be kind of suspect. People are fallible.

Gold.

Turn them on for 5 or 10 minutes. They are a total extension of the White House, and complicit in the giant cover-up we're witnessing.

Also, I'd love to hear Fox or anyone else argue against the fact that Donnie Depends™ and Jared Kushner have been susceptible to Russian blackmail since June 9th 2016 and at least until the emails were posted Monday night. That is a fact, right?

Yeah, I agree with your premise, but for sure FOX News and MSNBC are nothing remotely resembling a mirror image of each other. A news-media landscape populated with only MSNBC type outlets and mirrors of it would be a vast improvement and, while probably not ideal, would allow a concerned viewer to watch both for balance.

My point is that certain channels, like FOX News in particular have learned that targeting a certain "audience" by adjusting their style of coverage works for their bottom line. Americans find that channels that totally play it down the middle are boring.

Yup. It's a problem.

https://youtu.be/q8CzncS4w5A?t=120

8 seems like a lot.



https://twitter.com/kaylatausche/sta...82147207847936

Clocked lying at 70% by those left leaning fake newsy fact checkers?!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...uranium-story/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...uranium-story/

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4583102278001/

Anybody else having sound issues on their fbi director hearing feed.

Need all Trump Tweets read by Gollum

Starts about 3:50

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59...b005b0fdc9967a

Does FOX have an investigative arm? Do they break (true) stories? The only instances I can recall of NYT or WaPo citing them are for exclusive interviews with the Trump admin. There was also that thing with Greg Gianforte, but FOX just happened to be there.

The people who make decisions like electing Trump and voting for Brexit are also investing in stock markets. If people think their Aces are good, they keep betting.

Comparing Trump to pocket Aces itt.