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02-01-2017 , 11:26 PM

#4501

Victor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

This **** would be hilarious if it weren't so damn terrifying. "Commander Spicer, a war on trees, wouldn't that be hilarious? It would drive the liberals crazy, too. What do you think about that?"

calling him commander was the least appalling and offensive part of that question. hey spicer, why havent we completely raped our land yet?

02-01-2017 , 11:26 PM

#4502

markksman

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Depressing aside I am a big fan of the comedian Jim Jefferies and used to love his podcast. He hasn't done it for years so last night I searched to find podcasts he guested on. I downloaded some last night.

I just started listening to one he did with Tom Arnold. (Didn't know he had a podcast). Almost imeddiately I get tilted because Arnold talks about why he didn't end up releasing the Trump N tapes. I had forget he was the one who had them.

While some of his excuses were weak, like people voting for him would not have cared (partially true), his one valid reason was the people who got the tape to Tom Arnold would likely be exposed as they could track back to which crew were in the board room at the time of his outbursts.

In hindsight I don't know if it would have changed things. But would have been interesting to find out.

One note too is Tom Arnold told Mike Tyson about the tapes and Tyson said Trump has a ghetto pass.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...137467550?mt=2

02-01-2017 , 11:33 PM

#4503

markksman

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Oh yeah and apparently Tom Arnold saw trump's tax returns thanks to American Hackers.

I wish I believed it.

02-01-2017 , 11:34 PM

#4504

dlk9s

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hornbug

So the press secretary is not up on his 19th century history about Frederick Douglas. Nobody is an expert on everything.

He doesn't have to be an expert, nor does Trump. They absolutely should know who Frederick Douglass was. Without question. They don't even have to know much about him (I don't remember much). If they just know the basics, that he was an important abolitionist, that would be enough. But they don't even know that. They literally do not know who the man was. At all.

It's not about knowing every detail of 19th century history. It's about knowing basic, important facts about American history. I'd be disappointed if anyone with a high school degree didn't know who Frederick Douglass was and here we're talking about the ****ing POTUS and Press Secretary. It's shameful

I would have wagered a significant amount of money that, before today, Betsy DeVos didn't know who he was, either.

EDIT: It is also Exhibit 1231023 of Trump's complete lack of intellectual curiosity. He was given notes or a speech or whatever with the name of someone he didn't know and he didn't think to ask someone about it or Google the name real quick, just so he had an idea.

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02-01-2017 , 11:39 PM

#4505

A_C_Slater

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One man alone proved himself able to bring an end to this counter culture movement of refugee tolerance. America seemed to be falling into chaos, but he did not hesitate to march forth. That America in its greatest hour of need can can produce a Donald Trump testifies to its vitality. In Donald Trump the American people have finally found their champion!

02-01-2017 , 11:45 PM

#4506

ScreaminAsian

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earlier today, the president was offered to take a position on an issue that would advance his political goals: "nuclear option" or "no nuclear option". trump very easily chose nuclear option. just something i've been thinking about a lot today.

02-01-2017 , 11:48 PM

#4507

DeroDeniro

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I accidentally put a plastic bottle in the non-recycling trash today. Then I thought to myself, "Well Trump's president now so what does it matter."

02-01-2017 , 11:48 PM

#4508

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dlk9s

I'd be disappointed if anyone with a high school degree didn't know who Frederick Douglass was and here we're talking about the ****ing POTUS and Press Secretary. It's shameful

I would have wagered a significant amount of money that, before today, Betsy DeVos didn't know who he was, either.

I completely forgot who he was and I suspect so did about everyone else. (ofc this forum maybe not, but like among real people)

Trump wants whatever he says done and he doesn't care how.

02-01-2017 , 11:54 PM

#4509

simplicitus

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Originally Posted by seattlelou

Yes he stated they were on notice due to their "provocative ballistic-missile launch." On notice was left undefined.

I think it means they're on double plus probation with a time out. Murica cleary wants war with Iran, but only after we're done with Mexico and Australia.

02-02-2017 , 12:00 AM

#4510

einbert

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"We're gonna have so many wars, you won't even be able to keep up with them all. And I'm going to name the next country I invade on Thursday night at 10 Eastern on NBC. You don't want to miss it. Will it be Mexico, Iran, or Austrailia? It's gonna be terrific"

02-02-2017 , 12:00 AM

#4511

FlyWf

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Yeah it's bizarre that after Benghazi was a story for literally 4 years we aren't hearing a lot about that Yemen raid, but

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN15G5RX

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U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

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The U.S. officials said the extremists’ base had been identified as a target before the Obama administration left office on Jan. 20, but then-President Barack Obama held off approving a raid ahead of his departure.

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The military officials who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity said "a brutal firefight" took the lives of Owens and at least 15 Yemeni women and children. One of the dead was the 8-year-old daughter of Anwar al-Awlaki, a militant killed by a 2011 U.S. drone strike.

02-02-2017 , 12:14 AM

#4512

locknopair

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

well, if he ever runs out of ideas, he can always join this guy.

02-02-2017 , 12:27 AM

#4513

JPantz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Yeah it's bizarre that after Benghazi was a story for literally 4 years we aren't hearing a lot about that Yemen raid, but

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN15G5RX

Not sure what you're trying to imply here. Benghazi was a different situation. These one off raids into Somalia or Yemen aren't uncommon and there have been a few SOF guys killed in Iraq and Syria fighting ISIS.

If Trump starts pushing these things with without proper prep then it does become a problem. I bet the goal was to do this raid as a sort of show of force. They wanted to wait for more intel but Trump said f it.

We probably won't see any SEALs saying Trump left them there to die anytime soon though

02-02-2017 , 12:32 AM

#4514

simplicitus

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Originally Posted by seattlelou

Not sure (how can anyone be?), I do know that SCOTUS judges do not turn out as expected and plenty have disappointed the Presidents that nominated them.

They've kinda learned from past experience, so they only nominate extremely religious people who they are confident won't change their views.

02-02-2017 , 12:33 AM

#4515

einbert

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This judge seems like Trump's kinda guy.

http://fusion.net/story/384243/neil-...n=thisisfusion

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In another article, Gorsuch slammed a coalition of activists urging Columbia to divest from corporations supporting South African apartheid. They “seem willing to sacrifice the large income from (Columbia’s) endowment, which goes to pay for our need-blind admissions, among other things,” he wrote.

But Gorsuch was best-known on campus for founding a conservative campus publication, The Federalist Paper, which frequently ran attacks on campus activists. One of them was Jordan Kushner, a student two years above Gorsuch who is now a civil rights lawyer in Minneapolis.

“He had something against every progressive cause,” Kushner told me. “He criticized divestment movements, he criticized the protest against gentrification…he was hostile toward issues involving racism, back when he wasn’t trying to lay the groundwork to try and become a federal judge.”

The two clashed frequently. When Kushner took part in a campus boycott against Coors beer—a brand then being targeted for what critics saw as racist, homophobic, anti-labor practices, Gorsuch responded by running an ad for Coors in the The Federalist Paper, and falsely accused Kushner of “kicking and scratching at the kegs of Coors beer” in a story he later retracted. When Kushner was arrested in a protest against the eviction of a black employee from university housing, Gorsuch told the Spectator that the protest was one of “overwhelming superficiality” and wrote an op-ed mocking Kushner for “smiling” as he was dragged away by police.

When he wasn’t criticizing specific protesters, Gorsuch attacked protesters in general. “Fifteen students wandered about, aimlessly criticizing whatever struck their fancy…with a couple of illegible banners,” he wrote in one column, adding, “our protesters, it seems, have a monopoly on righteousness they are asking for special treatment, acting as a vigilante squad while avoiding the weight of their own actions.”

In March 1987, the campus was thrown into crisis when as many as 20 white Columbia students beat a group of black students and security guards while hurling racial slurs, sparking massive student protests about racism. Gorsuch again attacked the protesters.

“(They) constantly claimed that our ‘white, male, racist, capitalist society must be overturned.’” he complained in a Spectator column. “Last Saturday’s march was more a demand for the overthrow of American society… those who addressed the march argued not for a change within the system, but for a radical change of the system.” He predicted black students’ activism would lead to their “downfall.”

02-02-2017 , 12:34 AM

#4516

Dominic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

That Australia call is amazing. Trump might honestly have no floor of stupidity. He might actually be the single dumbest human on earth.

Tori Spelling, tho

02-02-2017 , 12:43 AM

#4517

unwantedguest

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Iran on notice.

Jfc this is madness.

02-02-2017 , 12:46 AM

#4518

Dominic

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Trump: "What's on the agenda today?"
Bannon: "Insult Australia?"
Trump: "Check."
Bannon: "Threaten to invade Mexico?"
Trump: "Check."
Bannon: "War posture with Iran?"
Trump: "Check."
Bannon: "...I think we're good."

Trump leans back, hands behind his head. Smiles self-satisfactorily.

Trump: "Good day."

02-02-2017 , 12:50 AM

#4519

RV Life

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The way I see it, Trump threatening/insulting allies is a good thing. (Hopefully) at some point even the top GOP dopes will see they have no choice but to get him out of office.

02-02-2017 , 12:51 AM

#4520

chytry

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

5ive,

The answer is that Harris and chytry are both raging Islamophobes.

This kind of 'You have a different opinion; therefore, you are a racist' idiocy is one of the reasons why the evangelical fundamentalists have so much power.

02-02-2017 , 12:53 AM

#4521

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JPantz

We probably won't see any SEALs saying Trump left them there to die anytime soon though

Military people,

How unusual?

Isn't this partisan/political and something the military isn't supposed to do on duty like that?

02-02-2017 , 12:54 AM

#4522

FlyWf

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Huh

02-02-2017 , 12:56 AM

#4523

fatkid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DeroDeniro

I accidentally put a plastic bottle in the non-recycling trash today. Then I thought to myself, "Well Trump's president now so what does it matter."

Seriously. It will be legal have a two dozen tire fire in your back yard with in a month. Book it.

02-02-2017 , 12:56 AM

#4524

microbet

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Things aren't looking good.

02-02-2017 , 12:58 AM

#4525

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Military people,

How unusual?

Isn't this partisan/political and something the military isn't supposed to do on duty like that?

According to some other reports they are probably military surplus. So probably just some militia dudes.

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