Guys, criminal investigations like this one take a looonnngggg time. Mueller probably spent weeks just getting set up, getting the office staffed, figuring out operating procedures, etc. It's entirely plausible that the media is ahead of Mueller in this investigation because they've had a head start, and their infrastructure was already in place.

So I get that most people essentially treat politics like sport and root for their team, but where is the breaking point? When do people get tired of being made to look like complete idiots in front of their "rival" friends, family, and coworkers by the idiot management? Like, there have to be some people who have been having arguments with their coworkers about the nothing burgers, Russian hysteria, and fake news only to have their "players" keep getting caught in the dumbest lies. When does the fan base switch from being mad at the rival and realize that it's the GM that is incompetent?

i have a feeling his security clearance was about to get pulled, and it would have been more embarrassing/scandalous to resign after that than before it

Seems to be ignoring the bits about Manafort and Kushner. Also, looking pretty darn likely orange was in the loop.

For example:

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/884900796957171712


Apparently, he taunt-tweeted to HRC about emails just minutes after the meeting ended.

That's ridiculous. Ultimately the president controls who gets security clearances. The buck stops with him.

i'm worried that the only way we will see justice with the trumps is if mueller's investigation quietly continues past jan 22, 2021 and a democrat is inaugurated president. only then can they expose the list of crimes and not expect insta-pardons from a guy like trump who clearly dgaF

You have poopy where your brains should be. IMO.

Anyone who has ever championed Assange, even if they regret it now, should be required to cut off their left pinky to the first knuckle.

I'm sure you're correct there.

Will just add that I had the train of thought of what a thoroughly idiotic plan it seemed on the 'Russian' side as well, however we know dirt was leaked so could there really be such a coincidence, before I read the Mueller speculation.

i think if the career professionals say "look, flynn needs to recuse himself from fbi/cia/nsa intel because he's compromised" trump isn't gonna die on that hill. his son? that's another story but tbh i never see trump admitting to guilt and resigning EVER. if he loses the 2020 election he'll say it was rigged and pull some ****

The biggest WAAF I've learned is there's a sizeable population of the current college age generation who actually believes 4 chan politics.

Obv flynn wasn't trump's call (see trump wishing he was still there), flynn did a lot of stuff on his own so they figured that's all they really had to do and a lot of stuff came out on him after he was gone. That was a smart move for trump it's just his whole ****ing team did **** they shouldn't have.

I think a result where Donnie Jr. violated campaign laws and Donnie Sr. needs to use a pardon is about as much justice as we can hope for here. Kushner gets a pardon if needed as well. Manafort and/or Flynn could be in worse trouble.

Ins0 is going to represent all the Trumpkins here and Donnie Sr. won't be hurt, though everything keeping him from ever getting back to 40% approval rating is not a bad result.

Heh dumb man.




Edit: LOL I love it so early in the summer.

*taps out a quick email to DJTjr asking him to collect his family and **** off forever*

Some one asks me to give them money for 10 kilos of cocaine what can I do? It’s not like I can stop them from asking, taking my money and leaving me the cocaine.

you set up a meeting with some money people, and if you get there and they don't have it... hmmm isn't this exactly describing the end of Blow (2001) where johnny depp goes to jail for 50 years?

RE: Mueller, the fact we're all sorta struggling to identify Don Jr's crime and Mueller's early work so far seems focused on what we can describe as financial in nature and essentially searching for emoluments makes sense. It makes sense that you would focus a case first searching for how money moved. There's a lot more federal criminal statues around taking bribes rather than taking dirt on your political opponents.

If the Trump campaign veered into serious criminality, it's way more likely they nail him on taking money or business deals than he simply horse traded with Russia for unflattering details about Clinton which lawmakers probably never really assumed would be something to guard against.

That platform change regarding Ukraine was probably a show of good faith by the Trump campaign, along with being the only real tangible political thing they were empowered to deliver at the time. Not many were really expecting Trump to win at that time. Since then it seems obvious that they are trying to deliver whenever possible for Putin.

Love Blow. Something sort of similar happened to a former third string receiver for cowboys. Might have been Sam Hurd. Anyways he got caught up in some sort of drug deal where the kilo of cocaine was left in a birthday bag at a dinner party for him to pick up.

I wish I remembered where the article was about it

Ah here is one story about it :

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/11/12/sam-hurd-cocaine-bust

Is that counted from the base or the tip? Asking for Trump.

Right after you sign the petition to deport all the illegal aliens. Because the law is the law, right? And they broke it?

But wait, apparently now there are extenuating circumstances that make it okay to break some laws, like when your daddy is running for President or suff. Good to know.

As usual, I am amazed at the sheer incompetence of the Trump family. It's like they choose to do dumb **** in the dumbest possible way.

donald jr better hope there are no "tapes" of this meeting

I’m not a savage. From tip is fine.

As someone pointed out on Twitter the Dem leadership has been near useless with this email thing. You're supposed to have some Dem leadership guy/gal on MSNBC or CNN or whatever shaking their head at the sorry state of Republicans betraying their country or whatnot (if true).

You can't push the Russia angle, like the Dem leadership supposedly wants to do, and then let the brakes off to figure things out when Russia stuff breaks. It's like they just want Mueller to take of everything for them instead of doing the swarmy legwork of painting a political picture of Republicans cozying up to adversaries in order to give the 1% tax cuts.