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07-11-2017 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
lol is he one of those young earth creationists who dispute the existence of dinosaurs, or think humans walked alongside them 5000 years ago or some ****?
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Omg, the origins are even better than I could have imagined



WATCH UNTIL THE TEXT AT THE BOTTOM, you will not be disappointed
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Originally Posted by Hopey
Where he argues that dinosaurs couldn't have existed due to their tiny nostrils:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...57&postcount=6

However, in this thread he argues that dinosaurs might have existed, but that Noah took only baby dinosaurs on the Ark in order to save space. He also states that he believes that the Earth is somewhere between 6k to 10k years old:

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...fpart=all&vc=1
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07-11-2017 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
I now coin the word "somethingburger" and demand credit for its usage here and elsewhere
I like this, I'm stealing it.
07-11-2017 , 05:47 PM
Surely some DC burger place is already selling nothingburgers, followthemoneyburgers, whateverburgers, somethingburgers and smokinggunburgers.
07-11-2017 , 05:51 PM
Yeah I'm sure Mueller is gonna come out with "of course we knew that, have you seen how stupid these people are? Wait until you see the **** I've got on them!"
07-11-2017 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
Surely some DC burger place is already selling nothingburgers, followthemoneyburgers, whateverburgers, somethingburgers and smokinggunburgers.
Do you want that with a side of there, there or no there, there?
07-11-2017 , 05:54 PM
lol
07-11-2017 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
ONLy when it's daddy doing it. If it was anyone with a D next to their name, he'd be calling for execution.

But also, inso... dinosaurs... lol ever taking a word he says seriously again.
You too now? C'mon now, you're probably better than that.

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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
lol is he one of those young earth creationists who dispute the existence of dinosaurs, or think humans walked alongside them 5000 years ago or some ****?
My stance on Dinosaurs: Fascinating creatures, and most certainly existed. No question.


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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Don't you present yourself as a serious, devout Christian? Am I remembering that right? This is disgraceful, dude. Just stop.
You are not, no. I have far more exposure to Christianity than most people who try to paint me as a bible thumper, though. That's really all it takes to fit the bill, I think. Calling me a serious, devout Christian would be a big insult to actual devout Christians, I think.


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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
if a 15-year-old girl emails you saying she's super hot and will have sex with you, you drive to her house and check it out!

or do you restrain yourself because some things, even if they sound great in the moment, are illegal?
Not really the same thing, but I understand your point. That said, does this 15 year old girl have the keys to the oval office in her underwear? I think you'll find the number of people who suddenly justify their actions goes up significantly in that case.

Age of consent is 15 in Mexico, right?

Modern politics is all about justifying things that other people think is JUST THE WORST.


But in all seriousness, it sounds like you have collectively cobbled together an answer to the original question.

We care about this because the guy in the original e-mail hinted that this info would've come directly from the Russian government, and a good American citizen immediately would've remembered that any info gained would be in violation of statute 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 and thus not acted on it. Even if said info would've assisted his father in winning the most polarizing national election in decades. Got it. I'm on the same page now.

Where do I sign up for the 2+2 High Horse Club?
07-11-2017 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
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yea i got some distant family in missouri who believes that straight up horse **** garbage- they're a bunch of goddamn ****ing idiots and they homeschool their kids to be just as stupid as they are. and they vote. truly contemptible people, just no ****s given about objectivity and science and basic real world facts
07-11-2017 , 05:58 PM
How Inso has managed to maintain this smug tone through the history of his 2+2 posting is a thing of wonder.
07-11-2017 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
We care about this because the guy in the original e-mail hinted that this info would've come directly from the Russian government, and a good American citizen immediately would've remembered that any info gained would be in violation of statute 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 and thus not acted on it. Even if said info would've assisted his father in winning the most polarizing national election in decades. Got it. I'm on the same page now.

Where do I sign up for the 2+2 High Horse Club?
i believe you when you claim that you'd knowingly engage in criminal espionage against the united states for a large enough reward. are you holding the potus to that same standard?
07-11-2017 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
You too now? C'mon now, you're probably better than that.



My stance on Dinosaurs: Fascinating creatures, and most certainly existed. No question.




You are not, no. I have far more exposure to Christianity than most people who try to paint me as a bible thumper, though. That's really all it takes to fit the bill, I think. Calling me a serious, devout Christian would be a big insult to actual devout Christians, I think.




Not really the same thing, but I understand your point. That said, does this 15 year old girl have the keys to the oval office in her underwear? I think you'll find the number of people who suddenly justify their actions goes up significantly in that case.

Age of consent is 15 in Mexico, right?

Modern politics is all about justifying things that other people think is JUST THE WORST.


But in all seriousness, it sounds like you have collectively cobbled together an answer to the original question.

We care about this because the guy in the original e-mail hinted that this info would've come directly from the Russian government, and a good American citizen immediately would've remembered that any info gained would be in violation of statute 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 and thus not acted on it. Even if said info would've assisted his father in winning the most polarizing national election in decades. Got it. I'm on the same page now.

Where do I sign up for the 2+2 High Horse Club?
you know ins0, i spent grades 1-8 attending a christian school where i went to chapel 3 times a week. i was over that **** by about the age of 9, but i think it's a stunning indictment of your intelligence, your character, and your "faith", that you would entertain cutting a deal with "satan himself", as you said, in order for your team to win a presidential election. you should be deeply, deeply ashamed of yourself. you're a complete fraud and an absolutely terrible human being. **** you.
07-11-2017 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Where do I sign up for the 2+2 High Horse Club?
Y'know the thing is, I don't think anybody's really on their high horse ITT, are they? I don't think any monocles are popping or any epsom salts being reached for. People are basically just noting that it seems like there's a very good chance #1Failson is what we in Ireland call caught rapid.

Or to put it in the terms of your really, really, really, really ****ing weird analogy: We might well agree that the 15-yo is hot. But that doesn't mean it's not illegal, and it doesn't mean we object to prosecution.
07-11-2017 , 06:09 PM
i came up with that analogy tyvm. got him to admit he'd take the girl to a separate country, jared fogle style

Last edited by ScreaminAsian; 07-11-2017 at 06:11 PM. Reason: more points for me
07-11-2017 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Anyone who would kill an elephant for sport needs to die. I'm not kidding.
07-11-2017 , 06:12 PM
It's not that my horse is high, it's that the other horse is lying down in a a 20-foot trench. So from there I bet it looks that way.
07-11-2017 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
i came up with that analogy tyvm. got him to admit he'd take the girl to a separate country, jared fogle style
Jared Fogle is a political prisoner being wrongfully detained by the corrupt Federal government. While there is a footlong, I am ordering it, while there is fresh, I am eating it and while there is a Fogle in prison I am not free.
07-11-2017 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
How Inso has managed to maintain this smug tone through the history of his 2+2 posting is a thing of wonder.
By not taking any of the hate personally. This is entertainment.

If that fails and you start to get too invested, hit up a mod for a nice long self-ban.


As an aside, does anybody know what happened to rjoefish?
07-11-2017 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
The amazing thing about this news is that even if you accept Don Jr.'s (changing daily) story about the meeting on its face he's still in deep ****. If it wasn't actually a brief meeting where this woman just wanted to talk about the Magnitsky Act and they brushed her off? Hahahaha oh wow
Right, literally everyone in trumpworld has been lying their asses off, day in and day out, for months.
07-11-2017 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
The bolded bit bugs me. I've admittedly not studied much case law (by "much" I mean "any") on this issue but do we really have to be at war with a foreign power for them to be considered "hostile?"

What if I commit espionage on behalf of, say, Israel? They're an ally so that's not treason?
Yeah we were not technically at war with the Soviet Union but plenty of people were convicted of treason for helping them or working on their behalf. We are pretty much never officially at war anymore so I’m not sure that is really a significant hurdle to treason. Not to mention if someone gave information to Russia and it led to a war it would absolutely be treason.

Let’s let the judges and juries decide if actions meet the threshold of treason instead of preemptively blocking everything because it doesn’t meet an outdated standard which would essentially be impossible for anyone to cross given the extreme literalness people are staking on it.
07-11-2017 , 06:28 PM
So if a christian dies in an un-repetant state of sin, they go to hell, correct? (My basic argument to southern pride folks who acknowledge slavery as a sin). As long as they are willing to stipulate that all of their slave holding, Jim Crow supporting, KKK ancestors are burning in hell, then I'm willing to listen to them prattle on how slavery was a sin, but it wasn't so bad cause lots of the slave owners treated their slaves "well".

Hard to figure out how Huckabee, Hannity, etc are planning to get into heaven.

Thankfully, I'm confident I'll be taking an eternal dirt nap of nothingness.
07-11-2017 , 06:32 PM
Jeff Sessions wants to bring back DARE

only thing I remember about dare was a giant dog and mostly thinking wtf are they talking about? from either drugs I'd never heard of or slang for them nobody under the age of 30 used.

ofc it's ineffective b/c lol.
07-11-2017 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Did you miss the part where the guy claimed to have juicy dirt on HRC 5 months before an election for POTUS?



If Satan himself e-mails you that close to an election, you hear the man out. Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter.


Naw you call the FBI.
07-11-2017 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Yeah we were not technically at war with the Soviet Union but plenty of people were convicted of treason for helping them or working on their behalf.
The Rosenbergs, for example, were convicted of espionage, not treason. If they couldn't hang treason on the Rosenbergs, then I doubt they can hang it on Fredo. I'm not sure even espionage can be a thing where you get information, as opposed to giving it, though IDK, maybe. I know basically nothing about any of this, and my sense it that Fredo probably did commit a crime of some stripe. Dunno what, but probably not treason.
07-11-2017 , 06:47 PM
it's against federal campaign laws to receive contributions from a foreign government or official (or say a lawyer for the kremlin)

Don't think that's treason either but I also don't believe it was a coincidence Russia snap took down 3 of our spies week 1 of the trump presidency.

In this case, assuming "nothingburger" it's still another one of those lying about it is a crime. However the campaign thing is also a gray area since it hasn't been used before so there's no obvious line to cross or not--because of course it is.

      
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