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07-11-2017 , 05:02 PM

#44926

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inso0

Great, but... it's been a year since the meeting.

Would you like to point me to the bombshell that was dropped regarding Clinton and Russia?

you're saying great, but then you totally ignore the substance of my post. you're trusting this guy's story that the meeting was of no substance, even though he's been forced to change it 3 times! he's not being accused of something very minor, admitting the wrong thing will land him in jail, he's not begging to get locked up.

literally your counterpoint to my: "you can't trust his story" is: "but he said ____!"

07-11-2017 , 05:02 PM

#44927

TheHip41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsjefe

But was it really Russia?

Yes it was really Russia.

07-11-2017 , 05:05 PM

#44928

sofocused978

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Fox news beating the "nothing illegal here" drum. Gotta love it.

07-11-2017 , 05:06 PM

#44929

sportsjefe

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(necessary caveat: of course it was, just showing it's not just the right in full denial of the course of events)

07-11-2017 , 05:07 PM

#44930

OmgGlutten!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inso0

Did you miss the part where the guy claimed to have juicy dirt on HRC 5 months before an election for POTUS?

If Satan himself e-mails you that close to an election, you hear the man out. Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter.

so the argument is now "Damn right I ordered a code red". that was fast.

07-11-2017 , 05:08 PM

#44931

OmgGlutten!

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inso any thoughts on Kushner wanting to set a private line to the Russia gov at the Russian embassy without telling US intelligence?

lol

07-11-2017 , 05:10 PM

#44932

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

so the argument is now "Damn right I ordered a code red". that was fast.

the "zero evidence of collusion" crowd is looking at this like the robots in Westworld: "that doesn't look like anything to me"

07-11-2017 , 05:13 PM

#44933

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

so the argument is now "Damn right I ordered a code red". that was fast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVaut1

It's the same situation it's been for months, just with more information coming to light.

The story won't end today. It won't end for years. But the right is slowly, incrementally working themselves into full Iran-Contra mode: that thing we denied and lampooned you for believing happened actually happened just as you said, but in the end we cavorted with a hostile power for the betterment of America, really you should thank us. It's like that Narcissist Prayer joke meme from earlier: that didn't happen --> if it did, we didn't know --> it wasn't that bad --> actually we did it, you should be happy about it.

It may take months to get there, but we'll get there. Then it's going to be over to the justice system, Congress, and voters to keep anyone honest. How much hope you have for all of that I suppose is a matter of judgement. Remember the GOP controlled Congress is already reading from the Narcissist' Prayer-book so they're really ahead of the game here.

07-11-2017 , 05:16 PM

#44934

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Wow just turned on fox for the first time in weeks.

1 host is actually talking half sense. Eric dip**** boling is melting down.

Women host asks him 'Can you at least admit that Trump jr did something wrong, whether its illegal or legal?'

Eric: Noooooooooooo. If someone offers you opposition research, you take it, no matter who it is.

Other guy: Yea I just don't see it either. You could say maybe he was sloppy, but I don't think he did anything wrong.

Wow, he was just sloppy in his collusion with a foreign adversary.

07-11-2017 , 05:17 PM

#44935

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lol Inso0.

And you gotta love totally nonpartisan, never-raped-a-gal Assange giving Don Jr. advice to minimize his political exposure. The thing I respect about Assange is his utter conviction in speaking truth to power.

07-11-2017 , 05:20 PM

#44936

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hacksaw JD

inso logic: well he killed a guy, but that was back in 2006 so...

Inso's logic is actually, they broke into the house to steal jewelery, but the house didn't have any, so no crime. Which is stupid on its face, but also just wrong because we have no idea what information, if any was exchanged.

07-11-2017 , 05:20 PM

#44937

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inso0

Don't you present yourself as a serious, devout Christian? Am I remembering that right? This is disgraceful, dude. Just stop.

07-11-2017 , 05:21 PM

#44938

BABARtheELEPHANT

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Assange is an enormous dip****. It's giuliani's level of "look, I know very famous people, okay?".

07-11-2017 , 05:22 PM

#44939

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Originally Posted by Money2Burn

Inso's logic is actually, they broke into the house to steal jewelery, but the house didn't have any, so no crime. Which is stupid on its face, but also just wrong because we have no idea what information, if any was exchanged.

The amazing thing about this news is that even if you accept Don Jr.'s (changing daily) story about the meeting on its face he's still in deep ****. If it wasn't actually a brief meeting where this woman just wanted to talk about the Magnitsky Act and they brushed her off? Hahahaha oh wow

07-11-2017 , 05:22 PM

#44940

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Money2Burn

it's as if the police caught up to the guys a year later, and they CLAIMED they never even considered it. then they claimed they didn't do anything illegal in private after being caught conspiring to commit a crime in email, and sergeant inso0 says "time so close the case on this one"

07-11-2017 , 05:25 PM

#44941

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CNN reported the Muller didn't know about the meeting which makes you wonder what Muller is investigating.

07-11-2017 , 05:25 PM

#44942

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lol mueller's been investigating the leakers this whole time

07-11-2017 , 05:26 PM

#44943

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Guy on BBC Newshour: Ok, but not illegal and anyway Hillary did it too in trying to get dirt on Trump from Ukraine government. As I recall, dirt did come from Ukraine but it was on Manafort and it resulted in him being dumped. Don't remember what Clinton's involvement was. I'm sure Trumpers will remind us though, if this line becomes an approved talking point.

07-11-2017 , 05:27 PM

#44944

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lycosid

Have we even established that crown prosecutor of Russia is a real thing?

I mean, there's no crown, so I doubt it, but it could just be something lost in translation.

07-11-2017 , 05:28 PM

#44945

OmgGlutten!

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so how did NYT get those emails?

07-11-2017 , 05:29 PM

#44946

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m_reed05

Wow just turned on fox for the first time in weeks.

Eric: Noooooooooooo. If someone offers you opposition research, you take it, no matter who it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inso0

If Satan himself e-mails you that close to an election, you hear the man out. Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter.

Inso0 is apparently just like Trump, only instead of tweeting Fox and pretending he came up with it he posts it ITT.

Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

lol is he one of those young earth creationists who dispute the existence of dinosaurs, or think humans walked alongside them 5000 years ago or some ****?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inso0

The whole 50+ ton animal breathing out of nostrils the size of a horse was part of a discussion I had with someone like 10 years ago regarding atmospherics in a pre-flood world.

You can think I'm bat**** crazy for believing things written in the bible, but I'm not denying the existence of dinosaurs, if that's what you're implying. I realize that in the minds of most here, there's no meaningful distinction. But the nostril thing is just such a weird line of attack I figured I'd finally acknowledge your bait and ask wtf your issue is.

At some point, someone linked me a study by dudes at the University of Manchester, but it was less a study and more of just a theory to try and make sense of the fact that it would've been impossible for something that large to function if the atmosphere were similar to what we've known. It boiled down to, "They're birds, and birds are super good at breathing efficiently." It was pretty underwhelming.

07-11-2017 , 05:33 PM

#44947

uDevil

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jman220

I mean, there's no crown, so I doubt it, but it could just be something lost in translation.

There is a Prosecutor General, equivalent to our Attorney General.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pros...eral_of_Russia

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07-11-2017 , 05:33 PM

#44948

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

lol mueller's been investigating the leakers this whole time

seems odd that he'd bring in a bunch of ringers as it relates to financial crimes, organized crime, and money laundering if all he was investigating is leaks

07-11-2017 , 05:36 PM

#44949

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

There is a Prosecutor General, equivalent to our Attourney General.

and Goldstone is from the UK, so it's his terminology.

07-11-2017 , 05:37 PM

#44950

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

CNN reported the Muller didn't know about the meeting which makes you wonder what Muller is investigating.

"they surely know more than what's been reported" was a talking point out there. lolz

It's likely they still have to catch up to what's been reported.

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