it's amazing that ALL of this is because Donald Trump's ego is too big and he's too fragile of a human to admit there was Russian interference in the election that likely helped him get elected.

I saw this earlier, it would be a strange coincidence if that is what it really is.

Also not for nothing but this is yet another item from the Steele Dossier that was proven factual.

Doubtful that's the main reason at this point. It may be a good secondary reason for the MSM and such because they can't do too much speculating on POTUS being nefarious without direct evidence.

But in reality, Trump is covering up CRIMES with Russia. And worse. Collusion to win the 2016 election pales in comparison to the Trump admin's plan to destroy American Democracy.

IMO

Yep. The Dossier mentioned meetingS between the Trump campaign and Russian officials to exchange damaging info on HRC, right?

EDIT: Release the (underage) pees!

For a Trump supporter, it has to be amazing. Oh hey, Donald Jr also forgot to let us know about his secret meeting to gather info on Hillary Clinton with a Russian spies... hey, this is totally cool and does not discredit Trump's refusal to admit Russian involvement in the election.

If possible they will refuse to believe it's real, but if somehow they no longer are able to do that they'll switch to being happy that Russia saved us from that horrible woman and delivered us into DJT's loving arms.

The trumpkin forum I occasionally look at is going with 'If someone has info on your opponent you'd have to be an idiot not to take a meeting with them.'

Basically this. It "matters" in that perhaps there are some Republican voters out there finally fed up, or it makes Trump's job harder to recruit and win over GOPers in competitive districts, etc. etc. Perhaps it's distracting Trump and the GOP for another week or two so they don't do anything, and being ineffective is probably a worse look than being corrupted by a foreign power.

Hard to say. People are so reflexively partisan I am really skeptical it's changing that many minds. Talk to most GOP voters and they've internalized all of it and are quietly if not boisterously happy Russia trolled HRC. They aren't going to be shaken. Perhaps on the very thin margins. It's like Iran Contra, which didn't do much to shake up Reagan, least of all on the right.

The dreams of prosecution and impeachment remain fantasies until Paul Ryan and the stooges are ready to abandon ship. So long as people remain steadfastly partisan and highly anxious about Democrats having power because of Kaepernick or immigrants or BLM or Berkeley or whatever else is rattling around old white peoples brains, then the external pressure on the Congressional stooges won't appear. It's a vicious cycle.

So is P7. Unlike Trolly, I'll give you guys some of the good stuff:

Cliffs: a whole lot of "BUT WHAT ABOUT HILLARY" and exactly the kind of "Don Jr. was transparent!" stuff DVaut predicted

edit: late-breaking update!

re: that 2032 AD tweet from earlier, you can probably just amend it to "2032 AD: We can talk about this latest Donald Trump scandal once Hillary Clinton is finally investigated"

So Donald's campaign manager, son in law and Fredo had this meeting without telling him, and then during the whole Russian ordeal, continued to not tell him about it until now, but he is really proud of Fredo for his transparency!

#believable

This is a special time to be alive.

i think norway hacked donald trump jr's unsecure server and leaked the contents to wikileaks, who did nothing with it for a year, norway finally just recently leaked it to the nyt, nyt corroborated it with the right people, and here we are.

trump's next move?

Trump with the 9% approval rating in Europe, but still 40% here. Looks like all those cuts to our education system paid off.

It doesn't end until the final reveal where we learn Putin has our nuclear launch codes. McCain will be extra concerned at the news.

So on a scale of 1 to HRC, how depressed are you guys going to be when two weeks from now this story is just another chapter in the book of "Things that will definitely could potentially the interwebs thought would lead to the downfall of Donald J. Trump... butnahhhhh."

Do you guys wake up with an elevated heart-rate every day now?


Also, can one of you take a deep breath and explain in a calm and civilized manner why anyone should care about this particular e-mail scandal?

A guy that runs a PR firm claims to have someone with dirt on Clinton's ties with Russia and sets up a meeting at Trump tower. Those claims turn out to be false, and now it's being used as "proof" that Trump colluded directly with the Kremlin?

Nobody sees how extreme these leaps in logic are? Do you really not understand why the average voter is rolling her eyes at how absurd this whole circus has become?

the russian cyberwar is ongoing and is bolsering the perception of trump by continuing to spam social media in america and russia (but they're not stretching their capabilities yet to do europe at the same time). unfortunately there are plenty of sean hannities in america who have already embraced an alliance of gun-toting white supremacists and radicalized theocratic christians in their effort to support their team, adding russian spies isn't that big of a deal considering where they're already at.

rofl inso again

Man, never would have guessed we'd get a dishonest summary of this event from Inso!

rofl

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go jaq off somewhere else

Oh man, that's a work of art.

name the people claiming there wasn't anything of value exchanged or offered at the meeting.

Assange wanted them leaked through Wikileaks



My fave part of that chain



So basically he's saying that Junior should leak through Wikileaks, otherwise the drip drip will be worse for Junior.

He knows this because this is how he leaked Podesta's e-mails.

lol assange