33 to 1 for Carson to be the first cabinet member to leave seems like nice odds.

So you're talking about just lying to people? There's no way a Dem tax plan saves an (upper) middle class family more in taxes than a GOP tax plan. And then, again this is like giving up all of the ground to the GOP, basically making their case for them that the worst thing in the world is to pay taxes, and it's so unjust that this family that probably makes $100k+ per year is having their $6,500 stolen from them by big government.

Consider the following two questions:

1) Is there anything that can be done ex post that will remedy injustices like Gorsuch/Garland?

2) Can the country be improved going forward using traditional political channels and methods?

I feel like you consistently assume that the answer to the first question somehow informs or implies the answer to the second question. That is not at all obvious to me.

This is idiotic. The Republican tax plan gives tax cuts to the rich, I want to raise them drastically. My tax plan will be revenue neutral.

He must be drunk or some serious bomb is about to drop.

How is every single actual news organisation / serious journalist in the US not joining together right now to destroy Trump? Every newspaper, every news channel, every journalist who actually believes in their profession should be coming together as one to denounce this absurd "fake news" nonsense. Every single citizen with a functioning brain should be out on the streets every day demanding that this vile imbecile GTFO of the white house. I just can't understand how he's being allowed to get away with making a mockery of everything the US is supposed to stand for.

Seriously, the whole world is disgusted at you for letting this stand. Do something about it. Get out on the ****ing streets.

his mental health is not getting better. i think there is a good chance it might be in the way of him sitting a full term, he might have a breakdown or he might have too low functionality at some point. joe and mika points out that they see a dramatic decrease in his mental function just the past 2 years.

Majority think they have it too easy, it's ridic. No, it's not a better life than yours gtfo.

I doubt it, since you're talking about giving a huge tax cut to a family in the top 17 percent or so. And revenue neutral shouldn't be the goal when the rest of your platform involves large government expenditure (e.g. single payer). And LOL @ competing with the GOP on taxes. They don't believe in government and want income tax ~= 0. You will lose that battle every time and make them look better by putting the goal on their turf.

How about selling what progressives actually believe in, i.e. a government that makes sure all of its citizens are taken care of?

Everyone knew that about Reagan as he was running for election and still won. America dgaf.

Trump won't hide it though--he gets caught pouring gas on fires he started then blames whoever called the fire department.

I hate the mental argument even if it's partially true because he's always been completely off his rocker.

These are movements that are already on your side. You don't need to convince them.

Yes but do so in an effective way by making your messages easier to digest.

The right responds to visceral stimuli. Trump's graphic descriptions of the supposed problems of America, despite their inaccuracies, painted a vivid and clear picture of a dystopian society for them. No need to think or use your brain in any way. Perfect for them.

If the Dems want to win, they have to show Trumpers people exactly like them getting hurt by the actions of the GOP. Show them anybody unlike them (blacks, Muslims etc) and it has no effect. If anything, commercials about suffering minorities is pornography for bigots.

This is the wrong message to send. No one cares.

The best way to get what you want is to get Democrats elected with these kinds of things as secondary or tertiary goals.

1) Medicare for all
2) Tax 7+ figure earners more. Everyone else gets big tax cut.

That's it. Bang the drum hard on those two issues. The other issues will follow.

Those are some marketing ideas that are already out there. If you have some better ones, by all means let's get them rolling.

As I've said many times before, I don't understand these types of comments. I'm sure that Trump has experienced a typical amount of age-related decline, but fundamentally, he is the same guy he was 5, 10, or 20 years ago. The pettiness, narcissism, grandiosity, short attention span, etc. has been on full display for his entire adult life. The consistency of his idiocy is one of a million things that makes his election such a two-fisted head grabber.

I'm sick and tired of the democratic party compromising to get the racist vote. The Bill Clinton strategy. It's wrong and the GOP has adapted to beat it. That is a path that results in D friendly voters not showing up on election day. Draw a line in the sand. Stand for something.

It is not necessary to persuade a single Trump voter to win. It is necessary to get the D friendly voters registered, voting, and have their votes count. A message of fair taxation, universal healthcare, better wages is the way.

Joe and Mika are pretty much full of **** here. They were chummy with Trump through most of the campaign and now the leopards are eating their faces. So now we get this BS "well, he seemed nice back in the day, but now he's gone crazy or something" act.

And it's not just Joe & Mika, the whole Hollywood entertainment industry thought Trump's antics were hilarious. He got a pass on being a rapey ******* when he was a Celebrity Apprentice star because that's the kind of pedestal we put entertainment celebs on.

Yeah, I almost barfed when I heard him go on about the change in trump, how he's not the same person they knew a year or two ago. Self-****ing-centered much?


(lol leopards ref)

Chips Ahoy for head of DNC.

some ppl think he was able to speak in whole meaningful sentences 20-30 years ago. one example is the vid in the link below. (some say this is a non legit site btw, so im just there for the video). i dont know how he used to be that long ago but his way of uttering himself is not on the level in this video. but i dont doubt his narcisism and undeveloped adulthood was there that long ago.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/...ills-laid-bare

Nothing racist about showing how people like themselves are going to suffer under GOP rule in ways that are familiar to them.

Some Trump voters will eventually become disillusioned, especially if this nightmare of a health care bill passes. The Democrats have to be ready to peel them off and become the party of the working class once again rather than just the city elites. No need to use racism as a tool to get them to flip. Their worsening situation under Trump will do the work so long as the Democrats come through with a solution that will make them whole.

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The cynic in me says that the Dems will put up a symbolic fight to make it look like they're in it to beat this healthcare mess the GOP is making but I suspect that deep down they want this to pass because they can focus every campaign on this one thing and have a better chance at retaking Congress in 2018. After all, healthcare is an issue for everybody not just for specific demographics.

Of course this passing create a precedent that is not good for any of us. If bills are being made in secret by the majority and hidden from view due to how badly they **** people over, America would be much closer to a one-party state rather than a democracy.

Yes show them how they will suffer, but more importantly, Democrats must present a powerful positive alternative (Universal Health Care). Make the case that it's real and it can actually happen and you will actually do it if the voters give you the power.

you want them to admit that they are united against Trump in common cause. I could support that.

Thing is that "universal healthcare" is to the right a dog whistle for communist. Once that label gets attached to a candidate, they're finished. It's another stupid thing ingrained into American political culture.

Effective, long-lasting change is often slow and steady. That's why Obamacare was great because it was a step towards UHC without it being called that. No doubt a Democratic-controlled government would be taking another step towards a single-payer system right now.

Universal healthcare is what you want, universal healthcare is what you sell to people. Call it Medicare for All if you want, but the opposition is going to call it UHC and everything worse. But we're not going to sneak attack this thing. ObamaCare is great in many ways, but the ways it isn't great are basically that it isn't UHC. It's a technocratic capitalist system which is much much better than what came before, but it's very hard to explain, it's very hard to market.

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https://twitter.com/DemSocialists/st...23010408079360

Yeah Trump is an absolute clown show but I muster no sympathy for the infotainment industrial complex. More than anyone, they were extremely complicit in Trumpism. Joe and Mika were probably the worst abusers, giving Trump a veneer of mainstream credibility for a very long time.