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06-30-2017 , 09:00 AM

#42901

einbert

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Originally Posted by aflametotheground

einbert, get down to earth and stop ruining the credibility of this community. your like a useful idiot to the right wing that claims we have dumb conspiracy theories in the left wing forums.

Derides my statements, but doesn't point out one single statement which is inaccurate or incorrect. Typical Trumpist tactic.

06-30-2017 , 09:03 AM

#42902

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by aflametotheground

einbert, get down to earth and stop ruining the credibility of this community. your like a useful idiot to the right wing that claims we have dumb conspiracy theories in the left wing forums.

Trump being a fascist isn't exactly a wild conspiracy.

06-30-2017 , 09:11 AM

#42903

Sighsalot

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Originally Posted by m_reed05

Can we all pool our money and pay a reporter the next time Trump takes questions publicly to just stand up and ask 'Why are you such a stupid ****?' Or something of the like. Or maybe we can get Macron to do it on Bastille day.

I would love to see macron simply tell trump he is no longer welcome due to his despicable behavior, someone has to stand up for what is right eventually

06-30-2017 , 09:11 AM

#42904

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Originally Posted by aflametotheground

einbert, get down to earth and stop ruining the credibility of this community. your like a useful idiot to the right wing that claims we have dumb conspiracy theories in the left wing forums.

Trump is a fascist.

06-30-2017 , 09:13 AM

#42905

aflametotheground

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

Well you have to understand the long-term thinking here. Trump wants trade wars because he knows they will bring economic disaster, panic, riots, and chaos. When he gets that, he can use it to get an even tighter grip over the entire U.S. government.

This for instance, but really every one of your last posts. Also i wouldnt imply that im a "Trumpist", it just shows us again how dishonest you are.

The post above is so dumb that it should really not be necessary for me to highlight it for you. Maybe we should start calling you Alex Jones rather.

Im not sure how prone you are to writing these type of things, but i certainly do know a few things about whats going on in the head of people that bathe around in political conspiracies.

06-30-2017 , 09:14 AM

#42906

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I can post the 200 page list again of "Tell Me Why Trump is a Fascist" but I'll just post a link.

A final response to the "Tell me why Trump is a fascist".
https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrump...hy_trump_is_a/

Ur-Fascism
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/

06-30-2017 , 09:16 AM

#42907

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Originally Posted by aflametotheground

Well that particular post mirrors the thought process of Sarah Kendzior, an academic and expert on authoritarianism. She is very good and really knows a lot about the subject of authoritarianism, you should check out her work.

I didn't say you were a Trumpist, I said you were using Trumpist tactics. Which you were and still are.

06-30-2017 , 09:19 AM

#42908

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Trump's Chief Strategist:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e-steve-bannon

Quote:

Stephen Bannon, President Trump’s chief political strategist and, after Trump, the most powerful man in Washington, once declared proudly: “I am a Leninist.” He was talking to a New York university academic who had written extensively on communism and the former Soviet Union. “What on earth do you mean?” the professor asked him. “Lenin wanted to destroy the state and that’s my goal too,” replied Bannon. “I want to bring everything crashing down and destroy all of today’s establishment.”

06-30-2017 , 09:20 AM

#42909

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Originally Posted by Rex Ingram

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2m2 minutes ago
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Watched low rated @Morning_Joe for first time in long time. FAKE NEWS. He called me to stop a National Enquirer article. I said no! Bad show

Joe's response

Psycho Joe & Low IQ Mika should have their producers pull the clip of Trump on a hot mic asking them to go easy on him before that one interview and just play it on a loop for 3 hours.

06-30-2017 , 09:22 AM

#42910

aflametotheground

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

You are framing me as a Trumpist, you better quit that dummy talk and show us that you are less of a dummy than that. I dont accept being framed as a Trumpist.

If her thoughts is equivalent to what you write then im not going to read it, thats how simple it is. I have such a fat understanding of whats going on around me that i dont need to read her to know that is not worth my time. If people around me here dont understand that your conspiracy theory is ridiculous then thats a valuable lesson though, it will teach me how to use my time better.

06-30-2017 , 09:24 AM

#42911

einbert

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Good, go bother someone else then.

06-30-2017 , 09:25 AM

#42912

timotheeeee

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Let's not start some left wing version of the Seth Rich nonsense. It's hardly shocking an 81 year-old might die.

Also, the guy died last month. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to grieving or just not caring about journalists, rather than stonewalling. And the lack of information about his death points waaaay more towards "elderly man passes away quietly in his sleep" than it does "political operative assassinated."

06-30-2017 , 09:28 AM

#42913

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Trump is not plotting trade wars out of some false flag scheme, he's a moron, he doesn't know what trade wars are or what they would do to the economy, he likes that they have the word "trade" and "wars" in them since that implies you can win.

06-30-2017 , 09:31 AM

#42914

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Of course this is all true of Trump but not the Congress. I don't see how they allow it.

06-30-2017 , 09:36 AM

#42915

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I think he could impose some tariffs on a few select items (perhaps steel, as it will resonate) for promotional purposes. Trump may be dumb, but he is a skilled marketer to his base.

No way he is lighting like 10% of the stock market on fire and daring China to bend to his will tho.

Also, I believe the Prez can impose tariffs w/o congress can't he?

06-30-2017 , 09:37 AM

#42916

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

It always amazes and amuses how so many, especially on the LEFT, think that he's remotely capable of thinking beyond level 1 in any situation.

06-30-2017 , 09:38 AM

#42917

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https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/880778735456223232

Or even worse when America elects someone even dumber, more obnoxious, and mean spirited and we all pine for the good old days of Trump like some people do now with Bush.

06-30-2017 , 09:44 AM

#42918

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Originally Posted by Namath12

It always amazes and amuses how so many, especially on the LEFT, think that he's remotely capable of thinking beyond level 1 in any situation.

It's not like Trump personally comes up with all of Trump's plans. If you think he hasn't been incredibly effective at destroying these agencies by putting in people who are hostile to the agency's very purpose, you're not paying attention.

06-30-2017 , 09:44 AM

#42919

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I didn't know or maybe I forgot that there is a thing called an appeal to wealth fallacy but there it is all over the Intertubes

06-30-2017 , 09:45 AM

#42920

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lol, it's not going to take these people eight years to forget about Trump. Like I've said before, Republicans managed to make W Bush disappear from their collective memory overnight. Every Republicans you meet will insist he never liked W and he was a mistake but that clown got elected twice somehow.

The very next post Trump election (if we still have elections) will feature Republicans complaining about civility and lack of experience on the Democratic side. That's a 100% lock.

06-30-2017 , 09:51 AM

#42921

microbet

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Re trade wars and dems do it too, Obama put a 30% tariff on Chinese solar panels.

06-30-2017 , 09:51 AM

#42922

Max Cut

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NRA ad is another spot filled on the "How does fascism take hold?" bingo card.

06-30-2017 , 09:52 AM

#42923

Namath12

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Well I'll be danged

06-30-2017 , 09:57 AM

#42924

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

Yeah, it's probably just Trump taking suggestions from The Heritage Foundation. I bet they are very busy over at THF, Cato, et al.

06-30-2017 , 09:59 AM

#42925

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

It'll be like the McConnell health care bill when a ton of senators suddenly came out against it once the vote was pulled.

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