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06-29-2017 , 11:35 PM

#42851

Dominic

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WSJ reporting GOP Operative sought Cinton emails from hackers

06-29-2017 , 11:44 PM

#42852

5ive

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THE CONCERN IS STRONG WITH THIS ONE

Quote:

Originally Posted by aflametotheground

its in human nature to dislike cheaters. we on the left certainly dont like undeserving welfare recipients either, but the conservatives care alot more. its important to be wary of cheaters in society and punish them or else society will degrade and fall apart.

the thing is that its not about moral corruption. your parents are probably fine people. its all about moral diversity. you are going to argue with all your force to defend what you "feel" is right, and so will your parents and conservatives and libertarians. so alot of ppl around here would serve themselves well if they would take a more descriptive view on politics instead of the constant screaming.

06-29-2017 , 11:52 PM

#42853

iron81

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In a lot of states, the voter roll info is public and the parties already have the info. I used to canvass with the info. Some voters were surprised we knew their party affiliation, which comes from whether they pulled D or R ballots in the primary.

06-29-2017 , 11:52 PM

#42854

Namath12

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Wonder if I could sue my state if they decide to send mine

I mean **** that ****

06-29-2017 , 11:54 PM

#42855

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iron81

In a lot of states, the voter roll info is public and the parties already have the info.

The parties definitely do, but not even necessarily from voter rolls. If you give a contribution they have it.

06-29-2017 , 11:57 PM

#42856

Dominic

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Walter Isaacson and Jon Meachem are on with Brian Williams....they are perplexed about what is going on in our country. If these two says things like "unprecedented" and "threat to democracy," I have to believe they know what they are talking about.

06-29-2017 , 11:57 PM

#42857

5ive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aflametotheground

buddy, its in human nature to react and step up to those who are cheating the system. this moral mechanism has evolved so our societies arent falling apart by too many people taking advantage of others. everyone has this mechanism in themselves. racism is certainly a factor in america, but its not the same thing as disliking cheaters. there is interplay with loads of factors that guides our perception on cheating, like the image of black gang member welfare recipients that dont care about a job and are wearing gold chains and tattoos and selling drugs, for example, i would bet is something that contributes to stereotypes.

If this were remotely true people out in public would have to constantly duck from the flying guillotines.

I can't even with the rest of your post.

06-29-2017 , 11:59 PM

#42858

iron81

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Donor data is a tiny fraction of voter data. My understanding is the voter data is public in the majority of states. A few guve it to the parties but not the general public.

06-30-2017 , 12:01 AM

#42859

Oroku$aki

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Originally Posted by Dominic

WSJ reporting GOP Operative sought Cinton emails from hackers

I heard what they ended up getting was a recipe for soup.

06-30-2017 , 12:11 AM

#42860

wheatrich

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The Left has very little territory considering the argument that we should split up b/c of politics also applies to california/washington/oregon as well. (they already tried once, if you google the state of jefferson). Basically only have the coastline + cities.

06-30-2017 , 12:21 AM

#42861

ScreaminAsian

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06-30-2017 , 12:56 AM

#42862

Dominic

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About ****ing time! Congrats to Barbara Lee for finally getting this done.

06-30-2017 , 01:20 AM

#42863

einbert

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I'm not exaggerating when I say that that NRA video that came out today was very much like ISIS propaganda.

https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/s...02816447905792

https://twitter.com/CindyStorer/stat...97937767710720

06-30-2017 , 01:22 AM

#42864

einbert

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Here's the full ad for anyone who missed it:

06-30-2017 , 01:24 AM

#42865

einbert

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Dana Loesch: "I endorse the message behind this ad."

06-30-2017 , 01:44 AM

#42866

einbert

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The NRA in their new ad claims that "Academic Elites" are the greatest threat to American society. This is a line that sort of echoes through history. Many authoritarian transitions involve the imprisonment, execution, or exile of academics. They are a real threat to demagogues because they have the power to reveal to the people the lessons of history and what is really going on when a fascist coup (like we are seeing now) happens.

https://twitter.com/Mammals_Suck/sta...64116703682560

06-30-2017 , 02:08 AM

#42867

corvette24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

I'm almost positive that if we could choose one coordinated statement to hit him with, it would be something he's guaranteed to go on a mission to disprove. Like, "Why have you been hiding so much? Are you a coward??"

It would be our own "A Few Good Men" moment. Just keep telling him he's not smart enough to collude with the Russians. He's not smart enough to launder money through Russian channels even. Mr Trump, are you so stupid, you couldn't even get colluding with the Russians correct? Are you that incompetent?

06-30-2017 , 02:09 AM

#42868

corvette24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

she is a disgusting human being and I can't stand watching this she-beast talk

There are despicable people all over this administration, but she is a pure c***.

06-30-2017 , 02:18 AM

#42869

corvette24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyebooger

Ideally, yes. It's clear that values are irreconcilably different in different parts of the country. Can anyone give a good reason why Vermont and California should be sharing a country with Alabama and Oklahoma?

I can't, and I live in one of those states. It is a politically backwards, economically unstable disaster. Our governor is much more concerned with improving the gov's mansion than helping people. Not to mention we had Scott Pruitt. He could **** up a dealt royal flush.

06-30-2017 , 02:56 AM

#42870

jmakin

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That NRA video is marks the first time in the 6 months of this administration where i have a deep feeling that something really bad is gonna happen

The stuff i'm seeing on fb is unreal. The stuff i hear in day to day conversation is unreal. These people are sick, and so easily manipulated.

We are on the verge of something truly terrible.

06-30-2017 , 04:31 AM

#42871

batair

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

I'd personally like some serious talks of peaceful secession.

Think going full blown states rights would be better. Give them everything they want so they find out they dont want it.

06-30-2017 , 04:42 AM

#42872

Our House

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Originally Posted by jmakin

I've felt it a few times since January, but after seeing that ad and reactions it hit deep in the stomach.

06-30-2017 , 04:44 AM

#42873

batair

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Last edited by batair; 06-30-2017 at 04:46 AM. Reason: sorry gallows humor.

06-30-2017 , 04:57 AM

#42874

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Does anyone know how Peter W Smith, the GOP operative who tried to get Hillary's emails from the Russians for Mike Flynn, died? He was 81, but no info can be found online about the cause of death. Even his obituary doesn't say it.

Obviously I'm thinking what you're thinking. 10 days after the damning interview the guy dies mysteriously. Are the details of his death being hidden by the Feds?

06-30-2017 , 05:20 AM

#42875

cuserounder

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Originally Posted by Namath12

I loved Wagner, wish they had never let her go. Joy deserves it, but her show is like the only political show that gets eyeballs on Saturday so I think they want her there (as opposed to round-the-clock Lockup eps all weekend). Ari is outstanding and will be good, but I think the problem is simply that most of the country isn't even home from work yet during that time slot, and those who are are eating dinner, doing homework with kids, etc, and Wolf seems to still have a following as well. They've had more than a few different people in there and no one has been able to make it very long compared to the primetime guys.

I wonder if the time slot is set up to fail given that MSNBC is a liberal network. Liberals are more likely to hold white color jobs and thus work 9-5 as opposed to shift work, more likely to live in cities (which makes them less likely to go straight home from work), and more likely to be younger (again less likely to go straight home from work). So it makes sense to me that MSNBC would be at a disadvantage until maybe 7 or 8pm.

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