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06-26-2017 , 12:18 PM
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I guess in the Handmaid's Tale (I've never seen or read it ? ) world that could be ruled unconstitutional.
The book is boring AF and from the twenty minutes I made it through the first episode, so is the show. tl;dr Christian fundamentalist takeover.
06-26-2017 , 12:27 PM
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You are being naive if you truly think a fully right wing government in all three branches wouldn't extend to coastal blue states as well. A truly conservative SCOTUS could strike down civil rights laws, heath care, etc. in blue states.
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All it takes is for someone to challenge a state civil rights law as infringing on his/her First Amendment rights (Freedom of Religion, most likely) and for a right wing SCOTUS to agree to strike down the law. There's nothing the state can do about this.

(this is already sort of happening with the baker not wanting to make a cake for a gay couple)
Not if California secedes. 39 million people, that's a country. I assume the military wouldn't bomb Los Angeles. Water would be an issue. The issue?
06-26-2017 , 12:27 PM
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Hardiman was in his final 4. Pryor, Sykes and Gorsuch.

Hardiman is more moderate than those. Pryor probably cannot pass the Senate. If Kennedy retires I think Hardiman is the choice. That's all I'm saying.
You're analyzing this exactly wrong. If Pryor is the dumbest one he can pick, Pryor is the one he will pick.

Then he won't get confirmed in the Senate and Trump will tweet about how the democrats are blocking him.
06-26-2017 , 12:30 PM
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Not if California secedes. 39 million people, that's a country. I assume the military wouldn't bomb Los Angeles. Water would be an issue. The issue?
There's enough water in California, just not SoCal. Also, I definitely want Oregon and Washington to come along.
06-26-2017 , 12:32 PM
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There's enough water in California, just not SoCal. Also, I definitely want Oregon and Washington to come along.
Definitely. Then the hippy trail connects to Canada.
06-26-2017 , 12:37 PM
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You mean Jerry Brown or Nancy Pelosi?

The first attempted bill here for single payer might not do it anyway.
apparently a guy named Anthony Rendon. i just assume hes in someones pocket.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-p...623-story.html
06-26-2017 , 12:39 PM
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There's enough water in California, just not SoCal. Also, I definitely want Oregon and Washington to come along.
If you could somehow steal vegas from nevada you'd have the perfect country
06-26-2017 , 12:39 PM
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The options for the SCOTUS should be to hear the case now and make a final ruling or to let the lower court decisions stand until they hear the case. It seems absurd to say "let it go through to completion, and then we'll decide if it's legal." And is the "implicit conclusion" saying they will ultimately rule in favor of the admin? Well why not hear it now then? Pretty frustrating.
06-26-2017 , 12:42 PM
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Not if California secedes. 39 million people, that's a country. I assume the military wouldn't bomb Los Angeles. Water would be an issue. The issue?
If California wanted to secede, who would try to stop it from leaving? Republicans HATE California.

Plus that would be a ****load of electoral votes that would be split up, mostly to red states.
06-26-2017 , 12:50 PM
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apparently a guy named Anthony Rendon. i just assume hes in someones pocket.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-p...623-story.html
He's only gotten a few hundred thousand from healthcare and pharma companies.
06-26-2017 , 12:53 PM
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If California wanted to secede, who would try to stop it from leaving? Republicans HATE California.

Plus that would be a ****load of electoral votes that would be split up, mostly to red states.
Ok? I was only considering the well-being of Californians, not how much Republicans hate the place, or the ramifications for the rest of the US.
06-26-2017 , 12:57 PM
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If California wanted to secede, who would try to stop it from leaving? Republicans HATE California.

Plus that would be a ****load of electoral votes that would be split up, mostly to red states.
Well that's 14% of the USA's GDP leaving right there lol. Never happen, as badly as I wish it would being as I live there.
06-26-2017 , 12:58 PM
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Just saw that Roberts wrote a thing specifically asking for lawyers to address whether deciding on the ban is moot because it was supposed to be temporary. It would be classic Roberts to decide the whole thing is moot and not actually rule on anything. It would also be hilarious to see Trump's reaction when he doesn't understand why his ban is not allowed to continue.
06-26-2017 , 01:15 PM
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Just saw that Roberts wrote a thing specifically asking for lawyers to address whether deciding on the ban is moot because it was supposed to be temporary. It would be classic Roberts to decide the whole thing is moot and not actually rule on anything. It would also be hilarious to see Trump's reaction when he doesn't understand why his ban is not allowed to continue.
Link? And can you explain why it would not continue when they literally just allowed it? Or do you mean "not allowed to continue after the 90'days"?
06-26-2017 , 01:19 PM
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Seems clear to me SCOTUS gonna let Trump do whatever he wants.
06-26-2017 , 01:20 PM
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If California wanted to secede, who would try to stop it from leaving? Republicans HATE California.

Plus that would be a ****load of electoral votes that would be split up, mostly to red states.
Republican voters hate stereotypical Califonians, but when it would come to the mechanics of secession, Califonians will find that Republicans really like valuable ports, farmland, military bases, national parks, etc.
06-26-2017 , 01:22 PM
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The sixth largest economy in the world.
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Yeah, secession is not likely, but we get Hawaii too ldo.
06-26-2017 , 01:25 PM
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Something HUGE is coming out soon. Probably tomorrow.
If i would get candy every time this was said here, i would be as fat as Donald Trump...
06-26-2017 , 01:35 PM
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Just saw that Roberts wrote a thing specifically asking for lawyers to address whether deciding on the ban is moot because it was supposed to be temporary. It would be classic Roberts to decide the whole thing is moot and not actually rule on anything. It would also be hilarious to see Trump's reaction when he doesn't understand why his ban is not allowed to continue.
But there'll be nothing stopping him from issuing another "temporary" ban afaict.
06-26-2017 , 02:05 PM
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Calexit is another Putin wet dream, no?
06-26-2017 , 02:07 PM
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06-26-2017 , 02:16 PM
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Yeah, secession is not likely, but we get Hawaii too ldo.
New York City (lol the rest of the state)/Mass/Vermont/RI/CT would like to join.
06-26-2017 , 02:18 PM
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Then stop being so deplorable.
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I assume if California wants to secede they better start building up a nice military.
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