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06-25-2017 , 05:53 PM

#42151

Our House

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New Theory: Trump is so consumed with not knowing what officials have on him, that he's trying to draw out whatever evidence there is.

It's more than possible that guilt, and even public opinion, are secondary to his current state of rage & paranoia.

06-25-2017 , 06:04 PM

#42152

ScreaminAsian

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https://twitter.com/danwlin/status/878638744945012738

06-25-2017 , 06:21 PM

#42153

mic_check12

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Originally Posted by thethethe

Good article on this if anyone is interested.

http://reprints.longform.org/putin-c...story-anderson

Thanks for that, seriously dark stuff

06-25-2017 , 07:12 PM

#42154

Our House

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So much for looking forward to Chris Wallace again. After repeatedly smashing Trump's lawyer last week, Fox mysteriously gave him this week off.

06-25-2017 , 07:18 PM

#42155

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

In 50 years, will scholars think Trump>Harding?

No. None of this stuff is even an argument. People are not putting things in context and the ability to impact everyone dramatically and nearly instantly.

If we limited trump to trains and telegraphs his ability to inflict damage would be seriously limited.

Again not even close.

06-25-2017 , 07:29 PM

#42156

ChrisV

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Trump is far and away the most dangerous president ever. How much of that downside risk will actually be realized is an open question.

06-25-2017 , 07:50 PM

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Related to the question of how bad Trump is, does anyone know if any of these other supposed contenders for worst POTUS ever made the rest of the world basically say LOL USA the way Trump does?

I'm guessing no, but it's been a while since I've studied US history in any detail.

However, part of the reason the answer may be no is what markksman alluded to. Today, Trump's idiocy is immediately broadcast to the entire world with excellent clarity. That was not possible 100 yrs ago. So someone could have been just as awful, and for the most part no one (especially outside the US) would really grasp how bad he was.

06-25-2017 , 08:07 PM

#42158

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it's interesting how the only parts of the world that didn't overwhelmingly recognize donald trump as a disaster were russia and key electoral swing states within the united states that we know were targeted by the russian cyberweapon. wait did i say interesting or terrifying?

06-25-2017 , 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Melkerson

It was before he actually became President, but the U.K. lol'd at Washington pretty hard initially.

06-25-2017 , 08:11 PM

#42160

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Bismarck and Disraeli probably didn't think that highly of Grover Cleveland.

06-25-2017 , 08:13 PM

#42161

microbet

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Originally Posted by campfirewest

It was before he actually became President, but the U.K. lol'd at Washington pretty hard initially.

Doubt it. I'm pretty sure the UK was aware.

06-25-2017 , 08:47 PM

#42162

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

This should be emphasized because it's not in isolation. Hannity is on it too.

Something HUGE is coming out soon. Probably tomorrow.

06-25-2017 , 09:11 PM

#42163

campfirewest

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Originally Posted by microbet

Doubt it. I'm pretty sure the UK was aware.

I stand corrected.

06-25-2017 , 09:18 PM

#42164

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Originally Posted by zikzak

They did. Nevertheless, the GOPe and their financial backers appear to consider Warren a far more credible threat than Sanders. I agree with them.

The dems are more scared of warren than the republicans are. 0% chance they let her make it past the primary in 2020.

06-25-2017 , 09:20 PM

#42165

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

Approval rating for serial killers among Republicans would jump 40 points overnight.

Not sure if I'm even joking.

Population is out of control. Seven billion people on one tiny planet. And if more people were serial killers, it would reduce carbon emissions, which you should like. The far left finds a way to complain about everything.

06-25-2017 , 09:20 PM

#42166

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Clarence Thomas is 69 and has asked like two questions in the last 17 years. So basically shows up for work, then votes whatever the right wing lobbyists who supply him with hookers tell him to vote. That guy is going to live to be 110 or something.

06-25-2017 , 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right

The dems are more scared of warren than the republicans are. 0% chance they let her make it past the primary in 2020.

You might be right. God forbid we get a competent, credible candidate who fights for the right things.

06-25-2017 , 09:31 PM

#42168

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The Nader thing posted somewhere is exactly right. Once Democrats started taking big money from the same horrible people and institutions are Republicans it was GG.

06-25-2017 , 09:34 PM

#42169

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Originally Posted by RV Life

Guys, I'm out. Politics is taking way too much of my time up. I will never vote GOP as long as they BS and lie with regards to human lives and science. I will also do my part locally to do what I can to support candidates I believe in. Good luck everyone but I'm closing my account.

Your contributions to this thread will be missed. The fight will go on, both on this forum and off of it. We hope to see you here again down the road.

06-25-2017 , 09:36 PM

#42170

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Originally Posted by Our House

So much for looking forward to Chris Wallace again. After repeatedly smashing Trump's lawyer last week, Fox mysteriously gave him this week off.

Fox might be tired of him actually being a responsible journalist and going after the truth. There's just no place for that kind of stuff at Fox.

06-25-2017 , 09:37 PM

#42171

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@zikzak: Other than the existence of Bernie Bros (of which there are fewer than the media often suggests), what specifically don't you like about Bernie? Legit curious, not trying to be confrontational.

06-25-2017 , 09:38 PM

#42172

OmgGlutten!

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So if we lose another SC justice with Trump appointment, what are some issues that legitimately could be effected. And if we lose two more SC justices with Trump appointment, what then? Are we talking Roe vs Wade, School Prayer, baggy pants bans and rap music bans at that point?

06-25-2017 , 09:44 PM

#42173

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thethethe

Good article on this if anyone is interested.

http://reprints.longform.org/putin-c...story-anderson

Great article. Didn't google to see if the author is still alive.

06-25-2017 , 09:45 PM

#42174

awval999

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

If Kennedy leaves Trump picks Hardiman, who is relatively moderate.

06-25-2017 , 09:50 PM

#42175

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

You might be right. God forbid we get a competent, credible candidate who fights for the right things.

Indeed. There are very few that I think would do just that. Sanders, Warren, and Al Franken come to mind. Perhaps there are others, but I'm not coming up with them on the spot here.

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