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06-24-2017 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Say I want to be a politician. What do I do?
Make a prediction that under no circumstances will you become a politician. To increase chances of success, put money on it. The more the better.
06-24-2017 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
Make a prediction that under no circumstances will you become a politician. To increase chances of success, put money on it. The more the better.


I think Trump is very unlikely to crack the WOAT presidency simply because hes so incompetent and society is better now. Worst person elected to presidency hes in the conversation for.
06-25-2017 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV


I think Trump is very unlikely to crack the WOAT presidency simply because hes so incompetent and society is better now. Worst person elected to presidency hes in the conversation for.
I think it is more likely than you think. If Trump signs McConnellcare into law he could be there.
06-25-2017 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Say I want to be a politician. What do I do?
Meh, if I could play golf like you I'd never do anything but. Stay with that, it's way more rewarding.
06-25-2017 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Say I want to be a politician. What do I do?
Call this number: +7 495 697-03-49
06-25-2017 , 05:26 AM
Guys, I'm out. Politics is taking way too much of my time up. I will never vote GOP as long as they BS and lie with regards to human lives and science. I will also do my part locally to do what I can to support candidates I believe in. Good luck everyone but I'm closing my account.
06-25-2017 , 05:30 AM
06-25-2017 , 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Guys, I'm out. Politics is taking way too much of my time up. I will never vote GOP as long as they BS and lie with regards to human lives and science. I will also do my part locally to do what I can to support candidates I believe in. Good luck everyone but I'm closing my account.
Another one? Sigh.
06-25-2017 , 07:57 AM
this is an example of the apathy that sets in once people start subscribing to this pussy ass "WAAF" mentality

like i get that posting on 2+2 doesn't really do anything constructive, but this forum is where i come to get tidbits of news and feels that come out via twitter, to read well written articles about current events, and to soak up commentary from people who i think are smart, logical, and well informed. i'm just as sick of the political climate as anybody else right now, maybe moreso, but i'm not about to ragequit the forum over it
06-25-2017 , 08:19 AM


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...46025662296064
06-25-2017 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Guys, I'm out. Politics is taking way too much of my time up. I will never vote GOP as long as they BS and lie with regards to human lives and science. I will also do my part locally to do what I can to support candidates I believe in. Good luck everyone but I'm closing my account.
I'm stuck on level 938 of Candy Crush Soda Saga but I will never give up. We must persist.
06-25-2017 , 08:30 AM
If Kennedy retires tomorrow waaf is the only logical response. It will be the death knell of progressive politics for a generation.
06-25-2017 , 08:36 AM
Trump calls the AHCA mean, nothing in it changes, now he stumps hard for it.
06-25-2017 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...46025662296064
So, he's conceding that he was colliding with the Russians? didwegethim.gif ohnothingmattersanymore.gif
06-25-2017 , 10:04 AM
So long and good luck, RV. I'll remember you next time I have to back a trailer.
06-25-2017 , 10:39 AM
Watching a few minutes of Fox News, just a host and Chaffetz lying over and over again and calling for Congressional oversight of the special counsel. It's very tempting to give up because we really are all ****ed but we're more ****ed if people stop fighting...
06-25-2017 , 10:46 AM
GG RV Life. Take care.
06-25-2017 , 10:57 AM
Don't go! The ratio of good/bad posters is slipping.
06-25-2017 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
If Kennedy retires tomorrow waaf is the only logical response. It will be the death knell of progressive politics for a generation.
Sadly, it really matters little, because he's either going to retire tomorrow, or retire next year. He's not making it to the next Presidential election, and Dems have virtually no shot to take the Senate in 2018 based on the map anyway, so there's basically no way to stop Trump from getting another one on.

The only two hopes liberals have:
- Trump and his nutty Cabinet are dumb enough to pick a complete extremist like Bill Pryor, and 3 or 4 Republicans (Collins, Murkowski, Portman, Heller?) are sensible enough to vote against him;
- Trump gets someone on, but no major cases involving abortion/religious freedom/gay rights make their way through the lower courts prior to January, 2021. Democrat wins the WH, and one of Alito/Thomas/Gorsuch drops dead of a sudden heart attack, and Dem picks their replacement

Otherwise, progressives have to sit back and take it as America socially and culturally becomes the only 1st world nation to move backwards.
06-25-2017 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...46025662296064
Has Donald or anyone on Faux News even once ever said anything negative about Bernie?
06-25-2017 , 11:20 AM
1. Shame on the media for having people like Kellyanne **** Face on at all, but even worse is not interrupting when the lies start. You're just giving these people an outlet for propaganda.

2. Over at Chiefs Planet, zero talk of health care. But they're frothing HARD about (((Bernie Sanders))) bank fraud something.
06-25-2017 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
2. Over at Chiefs Planet, zero talk of health care. But they're frothing HARD about (((Bernie Sanders))) bank fraud something.
From a recent Politico story that was too boring to read more than a few paragraphs. The charge was leveled by Donald Trump's Vermont campaign manager, so my first thought was that he lied in every word.

Namath pointed out the GOP talking heads seldom say anything bad about Bernie. It is strange because they go hard after Warren. I think maybe they see Bernie has good poll numbers with their base (lol), so they leave him alone even though the donors surely loathe him. Rest assured, however, they have been stockpiling oppo on him continuously since the primaries, and if they catch the scent that he plans on running in 2020, expect BankFraudGate to rapidly become Emailz Redux.
06-25-2017 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Has Donald or anyone on Faux News even once ever said anything negative about Bernie?
Nasty Namath12 dissing Donald who has a legitimate point about the dem primaries. Sad. Y u no love USA?
06-25-2017 , 12:01 PM
oh, so hillary is allowed to collude with the democratic party but trump can't collude with russian hackers?? VERY UNFAIR
06-25-2017 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Sadly, it really matters little, because he's either going to retire tomorrow, or retire next year. He's not making it to the next Presidential election, and Dems have virtually no shot to take the Senate in 2018 based on the map anyway, so there's basically no way to stop Trump from getting another one on.

The only two hopes liberals have:
- Trump and his nutty Cabinet are dumb enough to pick a complete extremist like Bill Pryor, and 3 or 4 Republicans (Collins, Murkowski, Portman, Heller?) are sensible enough to vote against him;
- Trump gets someone on, but no major cases involving abortion/religious freedom/gay rights make their way through the lower courts prior to January, 2021. Democrat wins the WH, and one of Alito/Thomas/Gorsuch drops dead of a sudden heart attack, and Dem picks their replacement

Otherwise, progressives have to sit back and take it as America socially and culturally becomes the only 1st world nation to move backwards.
It'll take about 10-15 years for the next conservative justice to retire (assuming they all stay on the court to the 78-82 range). If he gets another one on, which he's obviously likely to do, social rights and equality could be set back 20-25 years.

However, Congress has the power to add to the number of justices on the Supreme Court. If Democrats have control of all three branches in 2020 and they don't add justices, going nuclear if necessary, they're the worst strategists of all-time. It's the only logical response to the combination of Garland's seat being stolen by an illegitimate president. It could be the only way to change the balance of power on a court that will not match the will of the country on many, many issues at that point.

It's especially critical with voter suppression and gerrymandering going on as well.

      
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