No one here is buying your disingenuous bull**** on this.

Dems will hold their seats by being the opposition party when things go to ****. If they don't, they'll get voted out whether they capitulated or not.

Is it even clear that the GOP has the votes to go nuclear? Are McCain and Graham on board? Is there a deal where they commit to protect the filibuster on legislation in exchange for letting Gorsuch through? Why not see?

Why does going nuclear help the reps earn seats? Isn't it more likely that they go nuclear, **** up royally, and lose seats?

no, they really dont.

Most simulations show that some version of tit-for-tat is the most successful long term prisoners dilemma strategy. Democrats need to drill this concept into their brain.

Exactly. It plays perfectly into the optics that trump et al are forcing through unpopular **** without a mandate.

repubs changed the rules.

Hey guys, THIS TIME if we do what they want, they'll give us credit and be more reasonable!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS WITH THIS ****???

Dems had a super majority, ended up passing a REPUBLICAN HEALTH CARE PLAN, then heard about how it was JAMMED DOWN OUR THROATS WITH NO BIPARTISAN SUPPORT

WHEN WILL YOU PEOPLE LEARN

Right, if they go nuclear and **** something up real bad, there is no option to fall back on "The Democrats wanted it too." Because, no they ****ing didnt, and you didn't ask them.

And if there is one thing to learn from the Tea Party, it is that so called moderates need to fear primary challenges. Let the Manchins of the world fear getting primaried more than losing to a Republican.

Getting nothing done and complaining about obstructionists is a losing strategy. "We secured the SC for the next 30 years despite dems best efforts" is very much a winning message.

I think dems are just ****ed here and going for a 4 year block on the SC isn't going to achieve any political or policy goals.

obv its utter bs. its completely transparent. you think if a liberal judge dies, they are gonna be like, ok we better replace her/him with a similar one? its laughable to even consider.

So have a ****ing vote on Garland first and then we can talk about cooperating.

This is like a Prisoners Dilemma where we already know the other guy tried to dick us over.

Where do you draw the line then? And what stops the Rs from going nuclear when we hit that line?

Giving the base confidence that Dems in Congress have the will to fight is pretty ****ing important at this point.

The Republicans stole the nomination from Obama. Either the Dems stand up against that now or the Reps will continue that from now until forever.

The GOP chose the rules, now it's up to the Dems to play by them.

If Senate Dems don't drag this out as long as humanly possible then they are even dumber than the incredibly low bar I have set for them right now.

In what delusional world do you think Trump capitulates on anything? He won't even let his people adhere to court orders.

When the bully demands your lunch money it's not a victory for you if you wait to pick a better spot" and just say "Ok, I wasn't hungry anyway."

It's time to fight, even if we're going to lose.

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Rococo, I think you're wrong obv, but not carrying water for Trump.

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In regards to this argument and my man Bernie, a lot of people were yelling at Bernie for talking about working with Trump where there was agreement, but he meant where there really was agreement, which hasn't happened.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...s-trump-score/

He, along with E.Warren, are tied for the 2nd lowest Trump score in the Senate.

Dianne Feinstein is tied for the 1st highest Trump score (100%).

I think it's pretty clear which branch of the Democratic Party is going quietly into this not so good night and which side is raging against the dying of the light.

Ah yes, the old "That's an awful nice store you got, mighty shame if something were to happen to it" argument.

I don't think that anyone is arguing that Trump gets to nominate a hard core conservative because Scalia is the judge who is being replaced.

But the reality is that Gorsuch replacing Scalia does not change the composition of the Court much. It's only natural to feel like the stakes are higher when someone like Kennedy is being replaced.

In what states do the dems have to defend Senate seats that Trump won by double digits?

I agree with this. I called my Senators this morning. I've never called my Senators before...

Let's call the Senate Minority leader on this too.

Schumer, Charles E. - (D - NY) Class III
322 Hart Senate Office Building Washington DC 20510
(202) 224-6542