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06-21-2017 , 05:03 AM
Has anyone tried unplugging America and plugging it back in?
06-21-2017 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by yeSpiff
Has anyone tried unplugging America and plugging it back in?
Substitute America for Democracy and you guys are halfway there.
06-21-2017 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
So is it going to take a massive recession, millions losing healthcare, a major war, etc. to get some people to not vote GOP?
Yes to the first two. A major war would probably drive more idiots to the GOP.
06-21-2017 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Yes to the first two. A major war would probably drive more idiots to the GOP.
I can't imagine how many ******* Republicans are rooting for a military conflict with Russia just to be able to say Trump has been "completely vindicated" again.
06-21-2017 , 07:51 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...74368661618688

No **** obstruction doesn't work. The investigations running against you (well, not you because you're not under investigation of course) are more frequent and more intense than ever.

Here's my position. Also the truth:

https://twitter.com/JasonKander/stat...60079019941888
06-21-2017 , 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Europa
Substitute America for Democracy and you guys are halfway there.
Democracy works fine when not run by Americans. It's your country that is broken. I'm startling to really believe irredeemably so.
06-21-2017 , 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
So is it going to take a massive recession, millions losing healthcare, a major war, etc. to get some people to not vote GOP?
None of these thing will shift the needle an inch. It will all be blamed on the "other."
06-21-2017 , 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Here's my position. Also the truth:

https://twitter.com/JasonKander/stat...60079019941888
At what point does "losing tons of voters in every election" translate into a world where the GOP agenda can be stopped?
06-21-2017 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
At what point does "losing tons of voters in every election" translate into a world where the GOP agenda can be stopped?
It doesn't because democrats are feckless losers lacking the spine to fight. Look at healthcare. They will put on a minor show of resistance but ultimately roll over and give up at the first sign of resistance. Republicans are simply better at the game, by a wide margin.
06-21-2017 , 08:21 AM
When voting doesn't matter anymore. IMO 2-3 years from now if left unobstructed.
06-21-2017 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
It doesn't because democrats are feckless losers lacking the spine to fight. Look at healthcare. They will put on a minor show of resistance but ultimately roll over and give up at the first sign of resistance. Republicans are simply better at the game, by a wide margin.
How hard is it to be better at a game when you have Trump openly changing the rules as we go?

2.1 out of 3 branches of government plus massive abuse of power. Hard to beat that, honestly.
06-21-2017 , 08:26 AM
Republicans are playing a different game. Democrats are playing democracy, parliamentary style. Republicans are playing authoritarianism--steal elections, disenfranchise minorities, collude with hostile foreign powers, do whatever it takes to grab power and retain it at all costs.
06-21-2017 , 08:29 AM
I mean Republicans just STOLE our Supreme Court seat and our candidates are talking about trying to work across the aisle. It's bizarre to watch our democracy go down in flames and Democratic leadership still seems to be living in some kind of era long gone by, or perhaps some era that never really existed except in the imagination of Aaron Sorkin and a few others.
06-21-2017 , 08:31 AM
I'm checking out from politics for a while. All it does is enrage me, and I'm functionally powerless. I've got a wife and two kids to support and I'm not taking up arms.
06-21-2017 , 08:35 AM
Before you go, please predict the Republicans crushing 2018 midterms.
06-21-2017 , 09:03 AM


As far from ideal as Democrats are, the American public can still go **** itself for this moronic response.

06-21-2017 , 09:14 AM
So like every one of these guys are corrupt? This **** is insane.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/u...-cia.html?_r=0
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At the F.B.I., the C.I.A., the Justice Department and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence — agencies responsible for keeping American secrets safe from foreign spies — career officials agreed that Mr. Flynn represented an urgent problem.

Yet nearly every day for three weeks, the new C.I.A. director, Mike Pompeo, sat in the Oval Office and briefed President Trump on the nation’s most sensitive intelligence — with Mr. Flynn listening. Mr. Pompeo has not said whether C.I.A. officials left him in the dark about their views of Mr. Flynn, but one administration official said Mr. Pompeo did not share any concerns about Mr. Flynn with the president.
06-21-2017 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese


As far from ideal as Democrats are, the American public can still go **** itself for this moronic response.
Incredible. They're still holding out for that one potential anti-abortion legislation 5 years from now, and are willing to throw everyone, including democracy, including themselves and their families, under the bus waiting for it.

Nah, I seriously agree with others here. Racism is the biggest and most likely explanation for Republican behavior. Not GOP, or selfish rich bastard voters, but your average Republican. What else is there to cause such unwavering acceptance of any harm done to them and their country, that they absolutely cannot talk about out loud?
06-21-2017 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Before you go, please predict the Republicans crushing 2018 midterms.
06-21-2017 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
So like every one of these guys are corrupt? This **** is insane.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/u...-cia.html?_r=0
I can't imagine not briefing your new boss on something like this. If Pompeo never raised any issues about Flynn with Trump it seems that would have been strategic (but still seems unlikely)
06-21-2017 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
I can't imagine not briefing your new boss on something like this. If Pompeo never raised any issues about Flynn with Trump it seems that would have been strategic (but still seems unlikely)
You got a point.
06-21-2017 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
It doesn't because democrats are feckless losers lacking the spine to fight. Look at healthcare. They will put on a minor show of resistance but ultimately roll over and give up at the first sign of resistance. Republicans are simply better at the game, by a wide margin.
That's not really true. Don't forget, the Reps stacked the deck with partisan gerrymandering and voter purges to make sure they won the last few elections in the House, and then needed the Russians' help to get the Presidency. The Reps also have the larger group of donors who will just pour money into elections like they just did in Georgia because they're terrified of what will happen when poor people have representation.

All of that can't last though, the demographics just don't support it long term.
The Dems best and only strategy is to keep adopting positions that are more popular with voters and win elections that way.
06-21-2017 , 10:23 AM
House Republicans Block Russia Sanctions Bill because of course they did
06-21-2017 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
That's not really true. Don't forget, the Reps stacked the deck with partisan gerrymandering and voter purges to make sure they won the last few elections in the House, and then needed the Russians' help to get the Presidency. The Reps also have the larger group of donors who will just pour money into elections like they just did in Georgia because they're terrified of what will happen when poor people have representation.

All of that can't last though, the demographics just don't support it long term.
The Dems best and only strategy is to keep adopting positions that are more popular with voters and win elections that way.
Please explain how? That's a false narrative. HRC is the reason Trump won.
06-21-2017 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Crazy-ness.

      
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