Which, in America, is white supremacy.

The cops may have gotten away with shooting a white male just the same, but this guy was shot because he was black.

You conveniently don't mention that the police officer was latino, not white.

Chinese officer murder black man - muh white supremacy!!

People of any race can work to keep black people down. Yes, including black people.

If you've been watching these cops get away with this stuff for years like I have, you can't help but think the same thing is going to happen with Trump. The American system ultimately favors power and conservatism--not conservatism in the sense of "less taxes," but in the sense of favoring the existing power structures and being biased against anything that would change or threaten those power structures.

Right. Black and latino people get all the same anti-black programming that white people get.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvBlZy0wFOE

Where did I say I'm scared? You are the one saying white supremacy isn't a problem. I'm flat out telling you that you are wrong. White supremacy, racism, and the KKK are alive and well in this country.

It's interesting you choose to ignore that, but bring up Muslims. Why would you do that? It wasn't even the part of the conversation.

And a major LOL @ thinking that 1% of Muslims in the US are terrorists. If there are 33,000 terrorists in the US, they sure are doing a ****ty job don't you think?

Again, you are wrong and have no idea what the **** you are talking about. Go crawl back in your little FOXhole and hide. Either that or educate yourself but we both know that's not going to happen.

But go on. Tell me more about how I'm scared.

Ya, by most expert opinion there are roughly 100k radicalized Muslims world wide. The vast majority are in the middle East and have zero shot of ever making it into the US.

Keep fear mongering though.

It really is amazing. Barely anyone bats an eye when they hear about a mass shooting but OMG, look at that Muslim over there! He's got a backpack. What if it's a bomb? Meanwhile, it's a Sikh Indian going to class.

The hispanic/latino world has its own history of racism and it goes back a long long ways. You shouldn't simplify it to anti-black programming.

Einbert wrote that the verdict proved that the country was screwed. He could have meant that it was screwed because jurors are willing to acquit a cop that they know is guilty or because they actually have an erroneous belief that cops in these situations are not guilty. I was trying to get einbert to clarify a post that could be taken in one of two ways. The same was true regarding follow up post that wasn't making its point clear. Making those points clear was my only goal as most people here realize.

As far as cops and black people are concerned my previously mentioned opinion is that there are many cops who, consciously or subconsciously, think that black lives matter less than white lives and thus need less of a reason to shoot them.

Another stated position I have is that Thomas Jefferson is scum and that the wrong side won the revolutionary war given the British were being truthful when they said they would free the slaves.

Don't think Trump agrees with that.

Like Trump knows who Thomas Jefferson is.

It could be either one, in fact I'd bet some jurors fall into the first category and some into the latter. Also, for some it is a subconscious bias that they're not aware of whereas for others it's something they're actively seeking (to bolster the white supremacist power structure).

But that's not the real reason we're screwed. We're screwed because we accept this verdict. We're screwed because we've accepted the War on Drugs for forty years. I try to be as optimistic as possible, but the most hopeful thing I can hold onto is the idea that one day we will NOT accept this, we will NOT be okay with it, and we will replace politicians and officials and attorneys general who allow these things to happen. Until we do, how can we get to the root problem in this society, which is that we treat powerful people completely differently than we treat vulnerable (usually that means poor or black) people?

And god forbid you're a black parent right now. What do you tell your kids after something like this? Knowing they could be murdered in cold blood, and the cop who does it will probably face no consequences whatsoever, and people will be okay with that. And they can follow every single instruction, they can do EVERYTHING right like Philando did, and they can still die that day for no reason at all. How do you think kids react to that message?

Yea that whole argument of "Do what the police tell you to do and you won't get shot!" goes out the window pretty damn quick when there's no consequences.

I dont normally look at avatars, but yours is tres bien

Very nicely written. Now would you mind doing me a favor by telling your nutty friends that there was nothing wrong with me soliciting an elaboration.

No one used the phrase "white supremacy".

Racist beliefs and actions towards African-Americans can come from anyone, including other African-Americans. Officers of many stripes have been involved in these incidents over the years, although the majority have been white.

I haven't read the complaints but I'd be curious to hear the arguments for why these plaintiffs having standing.

I'm happy to back you up on this but I will require that you perma dagger and anyone who has quoted him (myself included) and give me an undertitle stating that I am responsible for said bannings

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-doesnt...ta-here-626285


Six members of the Presidential Advisory Commission on HIV AIDS just resigned. They cited administrative indifference to the disease as demonstrated by, amongst other things, a failure to staff key positions, proposed budget cuts, and the impact that ACHA would have on people with the disease.

Trump is still a thing and person who did not rent to black people contributing their oppression when it comes to upward mobility. His actions of the past are still are rippling through time even as some of his supporters criticize AA culture on not moving upward. And he did not even need to wear the goofy hood to do it.

I'm truly sorry that this has happened to you.

That is what I fully expect to happen if I ever get into an in-depth political discussion with my mother nowadays. In the past (prior to Trump inauguration), it would be that I pin her on something clearly wrong, prove it to be wrong, and her responding that it doesn't change her mind despite how utterly wrong she is.

Now I honestly don't know what to expect if I breach that topic ever again. Probably best just to bury that topic in the ground until she dies. My sisters have done that.

newt gingrich thinks someone is probably going to jail wrt the russian investigation, but he doesnt think trump himself.

if jared kushner goes to jail that would be soooo superb its hard to describe.

Why wouldn't Trump just pardon him?