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06-16-2017 , 11:01 PM

#41051

ScreaminAsian

For President

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 33,333

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagger9

This dude gets it.

fyp

06-16-2017 , 11:03 PM

#41052

fatkid

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 8,860

Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

Dude's really got a thing for gerbils.

So brave.

06-16-2017 , 11:04 PM

#41053

RV Life

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

"I love going all in on pots I know I'll lose so I can buy back in and lose some more money!"

06-16-2017 , 11:06 PM

#41054

Chips Ahoy

help me help you

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 28,869

Quote:

Originally Posted by adios

Doubtful the black jurors felt that way.

I disagree with this.

That's not how it works. Black people participate in white supremacy. This man has made it his life's work:

To repeat my point, the notion that police can commit murder without consequences is not normal, it's crazy. It is not an isolated crazy. White supremacy is the cause.

06-16-2017 , 11:13 PM

#41055

dagger9

banned

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy

I disagree with this.

That's not how it works. Black people participate in white supremacy. This man has made it his life's work:

To repeat my point, the notion that police can commit murder without consequences is not normal, it's crazy. It is not an isolated crazy. White supremacy is the cause.

My god you guys love throwing that term around. Where do you live that white supremacy is a problem or even a thing that exist for real? Teenagers using the n-word in video games or 4chan doesn't count.

Talib Kweli is calling every white person a nazi on twitter, good thing black people can't be racist tho.

06-16-2017 , 11:15 PM

#41056

microbet

Solar Powered

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,105

Chips,

In this case I'd point to Jesse Jackson's statement about hearing footsteps and being relieved to find they were from a white person. JJ is a million miles from Sheriff Clarke, but still.

06-16-2017 , 11:16 PM

#41057

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagger9

My god you guys love throwing that term around. Where do you live that white supremacy is a problem or even a thing? Teenagers using the n-word in video games or 4chan doesn't count.

Talib Kweli is calling every white person a nazi on twitter, good thing black people can't be racist tho.

White supremacy has only a little to do with using words from the list that liberals don't want you to say, and a lot more with cops being able to kill innocent black people without consequences. The latter is clearly a problem everywhere in America.

06-16-2017 , 11:21 PM

#41058

synth_floyd

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Even in 2017, white people still have a privileged position in American society. The fact that Trump got elected on "Make America great again" shows how scared they are of losing it.

06-16-2017 , 11:22 PM

#41059

Chips Ahoy

help me help you

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Chips,

In this case I'd point to Jesse Jackson's statement about hearing footsteps and being relieved to find they were from a white person. JJ is a million miles from Sheriff Clarke, but still.

Yes, like that. It's marketed like Coca Cola. Of course everybody buys it.

As for where do I live that it's a problem? In the USA.

Quote:

On Obama’s 2008 election night, Stephens-Davidowitz found that “one in every hundred Google searches that included the word ‘Obama’ also included ‘KKK’” or the n-word. Searches for racist websites like Stormfront also spiked.

“There was a darkness and hatred that was hidden from traditional sources,” Stephens-Davidowitz says. “Those searches are hard to reconcile with a society in which racism is a small factor.”

https://www.vox.com/conversations/20...everybody-lies

06-16-2017 , 11:26 PM

#41060

Our House

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

Instead of getting mad at Mueller, Comey, or the media, why don't you get mad at Daddy Orange for being a ****ing idiot that can't keep his mouth shut?

Ah, that good old presidential blame game. I wonder where he gets the idea from.

Also, why is nothing ever ever ever Trump's fault to these people?

06-16-2017 , 11:28 PM

#41061

dagger9

banned

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

White supremacy has only a little to do with using words from the list that liberals don't want you to say, and a lot more with cops being able to kill innocent black people without consequences. The latter is clearly a problem everywhere in America.

Of course that's ****ing horrible but there are more factors in play than just cops being racists.

06-16-2017 , 11:29 PM

#41062

Chips Ahoy

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I prefer the term white supremacy because it's closer to the point. Although I think "the myth of black inferiority" is even better but awkward.

racism suffers from symmetry, the problem is asymmetric. racism suggests hate. It's often not hate.

06-16-2017 , 11:30 PM

#41063

Our House

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If I were black, I'd choose 12 white liberals on my jury over 12 black Trumpists. Snapcall.

EDIT: Not snap. Slow call. It's closer than I thought at first.

Last edited by Our House; 06-16-2017 at 11:35 PM.

06-16-2017 , 11:31 PM

#41064

wheatrich

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy

I get why you say this. I have doubts though. In Nixon's time there was a media consensus that forced the issue. Now there is an entire alternative facts universe. In that world firing Meuller won't be a problem. For the people who don't exit that world -- which now includes GOP lawmakers -- it's just noise.

There's also several key differences between this and Nixon's. R's didn't have congress. Some people back then had morals. These people don't. Media was trusted, etc.

Defensive arguments are amazingly similar tho "THERES NO EVIDENCE" "EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE" and that crap.

Shame nobody remembers that's all bull****.

Basically it all comes down to whether they can turn on trump and not lose their own seat for it and many are in solid R districts. (don't know layouts back then for seats, they've certainly changed since then)

06-16-2017 , 11:34 PM

#41065

eyebooger

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 59,272

Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

If I were black, I'd choose 12 white liberals on my jury over 12 black Trumpists. Snapcall.

I wouldn't want Trumpists of any color on my jury for anything.

06-16-2017 , 11:40 PM

#41066

Namath12

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Video proof that racism doesn't exist but it's not until the end of the vid

06-16-2017 , 11:41 PM

#41067

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

out his main account

06-16-2017 , 11:42 PM

#41068

Coasterbrad

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,712

In today's edition of Trump being a total embarrassment to our country, we have his performance art to end infrastructure week.

"President Trump capped "Infrastructure Week" with flourish — by tossing thick binders, of what he said were unnecessary and burdensome environmental reviews holding up a highway project, on the ground. "

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/econ...m_npd_nn_fb_ma

06-16-2017 , 11:44 PM

#41069

Riverman

Carpal \'Tunnel

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lol jury system

Assuming hardcore racist probability of 10% (lol), odds of fading one on the jury is .9 to the 12th power

06-16-2017 , 11:57 PM

#41070

Namath12

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Sailors missing after destroyer collides with a merchant ship off the coast of Japan.

Chump is retweeting Hannity.

06-16-2017 , 11:59 PM

#41071

Riverman

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What a pathetic life he lives

06-17-2017 , 12:03 AM

#41072

Namath12

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06-17-2017 , 12:06 AM

#41073

markksman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

He should never have been elected based on his signature alone. It is clear evidence of prefront******etallobe damage.

06-17-2017 , 12:09 AM

#41074

batair

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

Video proof that racism doesn't exist but it's not until the end of the vid

That is a very good exposure of their fainting couch.

06-17-2017 , 12:17 AM

#41075

markksman

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by adios

Well for being an investigation that is supposed to be done in private we sure know about everything that is going on with it. I mean why aren't the government officials that are the WaPo sources going on the record? They are anonymous sources which means to me that they are leaking info that is supposed to be kept private during the investigation. So we have all these leaks happening with the Mueller investigation and why is this happening?

1. Mueller is running a shoddy investigation where he can't control the leaks.
or
2. Mueller is fine with the leaks and is using them to pursue an agenda that he has.
or
3. There are really very few leaks. The daily WaPo updates on the progress of the investigation are actually what you'd expect even though their sources aren't going on the record. WaPo isn't really getting a scoop on this.
or
4. The anonymous sources are bogus.

I think the answer is behind door number 2.

This is a take

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