In SF it's a given that everyone is anti-Trump, so it's fine. I guess if you were a Trump supporter you'd learn quickly to STFU and keep it to yourself.

http://fox59.com/2017/06/15/several-...flag-on-i-465/

ugh

BTW, the spot that Trump is in right now has to be the worst of his life bar none. And he's faded some really really rough ****. So watch out for his behavior in the near future.

As of yesterday, he still felt he had the upper hand in being able to fire Mueller, even though he would face lots and lots of backlash. Not so much anymore. Here's his situation:

If he does nothing, he knows the things unearthed will 100% destroy and humiliate him, resulting in sad feelings, impeachment, or an overthrow of government if GOP doesn't impeach. But every day is a ticking time bomb with Mueller and his team around. So he can't do nothing.

If he does something like firing Mueller, he gets to temporarily freeze the ticking time bomb, but also starts a new one that involves a higher chance of impeachment and still a decent chance of a quicker impeachment, embarrassment, or revolt. Many devastating and embarrassing things are sure to leak, because when a constitutional crisis reaches that level, people will be self-sacrificing their lives and even freedom for the benefit of the country. So he can't really fire Mueller either.

Which leaves what? I hate to say it, but his best option is a big (nuclear?) war or several drastic rules changes to increase his own power and abilities.

LOL did anyone see Trump's speech at the baseball game tonight? Even when he's just reading off the teleprompter and trying to give an inspirational speech, he can't help but look completely angry and pissed off.

Dirty liberals destroying freedom of speech in San Franqueersco

So, black males with LA plates shooting people on Indiana highway. 95% it's made up. Not like black guys with LA plates stand out in IN. Why note the MAGA flag? Why not say it was road rage, or a robbery gone bad?

Trump can't fire Mueller, he can only order Rosenstein to do so. Rosenstein has basically said he would resign if ordered to fire Mueller. So who plays Bork in this farce?

Bam! Now THAT is the right question, indeed! It's being asked about a year late though, isn't it?

The divide in this country is getting really really bad. Trump keeps talking about it like it was every past president's fault too. I have no idea why he constantly feels the need to draw attention to his biggest offenses.

BTW, could a US President ever be guilty of compliance for inactivity? For example, can he allow another country to annex us (IDK, like 3-4 States at a time) without intervention until we were no longer the USA, or would that be a problem at some point? EDIT: Cause I think he has other outs besides firing Mueller.

So like the Pres and the vp both have outside counsel fighting investigations now? This **** is nutz.

I think I saw them open for the Anti-Nowhere League once.

Nit. "Firing Mueller" is a common phrase these days. It means whatever it takes (get the AG to do it, create a new executive order) to get rid of him.

Rachel Brand (I think that's her name) is next in line, and she's likely to refuse as well. Many people are saying From what I've heard, Trump has to go deep in the Justice Department to find someone willing to axe the guy.

its problem

You mean could a president tell the army to stand down while the country is invaded? Do a reverse Louisiana purchase? You realize that impeachment could be done in a day if needed and that we have a three branch government and separation of powers?

Trump is making things crazy, but you don't need to try to out-crazy him by with imaginary scenarios. If anything REALLY bad happens under Trump it will be the most likely scenarios--the exercise of his unilateral ability to launch nukes or default on the debt. Most other things require too much cooperation for other branches or people.

https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/st...07466573926401

Which leaves what? I hate to say it, but his best option is a big (nuclear?) war or several drastic rules changes to increase his own power and abilities.[/QUOTE]

How does a preemptive nuclear war improve his position? The only target that makes sense is DPRK, but the resulting madness would surely result in immediate impeachment proceeding?

NVMD~ forgot for a second we are dealing with a reality challenged individual....

FYP because Russia has been attacking us since last year, and we're not only allowing it at the highest levels of government, these people are actively aiding and abetting the Russians, encouraging the methods behind their attacks in several ways.

I chose that particular hypothetical for a reason.

My entire family, parents included, think Trump is an A hole. We are all yellow dog Democrats.

A TRUMP NEVER QUITS is something eric and don jr heard screamed at them many times during their formative years

"A Trumpister never pays his debts."

Listen, the Republicans will not impeach for most run of the mill things that can be "plausibly" argued both ways, even if they should, but in any of the scenarios you're envisioning impeachment would be a foregone conclusion.

Few have more contempt for the GOP than me, but most are patriots and believe that are doing what's best. The problem is that they are largely deluded about things more complex than, "this is a horse," "this is green," etc. Don't fool yourself, many Republicans are very worried about Trump, as his meltdown could mean the death of the party, at least in current incarnation, but the divisions in the country are nowhere near where they were around the time of the civil war, where the North literally made much of the wealth in the South, and the way of life of most of the aristocracy, illegal. That's high stakes. This is just a buffoon carnival-barking conman funded by some rich people (and, perhaps, some foreign powers) and supported by racists and morons. Read some history.

Thanks for the link. I think it's time to fully sanction Russia the way we do North Korea

I doubt Trump will be allowed to fire off nukes without the consent or advice from some in the military. Probably all will refuse if told to do it in an unsolicited manner.

Chris Hayes from All In just showed leaked audio from an off-the-record Australian PM Turnbull dig at Trump. Did anyone see it yet?

Man Trump is going to be FUMING when he watches that!

EDIT: This happened hours ago and was big online. Surprised if I wasn't ponied. Anyway, found a read-only from CNN:

Say goodbye to another ally.

Are we talking about the same GOP whose leadership joked about knowing that Trump and Rorabacher are on Russia's payroll?