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06-15-2017 , 06:51 PM

#40701

ChrisV

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StimAbuser

I tried to show him stats about single payer healthcare, and he quotes me that he has a friend in austrailia that came to America for health care because he almost died from the awful health care there because they couldn't diagnose diabetes for months.

Diabeetus? Never heard of it, we don't know much about teh healthcare here in Straya. We can slap a band-aid on you if you get bitten by a snake.

On an unrelated note, here's some info about the new Royal Adelaide Hospital, opening here in September:

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The hospital grounds will encompass 10 hectares within central Adelaide, and upon completion later this year, is set to cost approximately A$2.1 billion making it one of the most expensive buildings ever built. 6,000 staff are expected to work at the hospital, and all beds will be single patient suites with private bathroom facilities. There will be 40 large identical operating suites built to the world's best standards, each measuring 65m2. The nRAH will also be Australia's most technologically advanced hospital, with a fleet of automated robotic vehicles to help move supplies, meals and equipment around the hospital, and a tailor made patient electronic medical record (EMR). Other technology features including patient weighing beds, wireless technology and equipment tracking capability, and intelligent information systems such as bedside entertainment and meal ordering for patients.

This is a public hospital, owned and operated by the government, so all of the above is free of charge to patients.

06-15-2017 , 06:57 PM

#40702

13ball

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Originally Posted by Riverman

Pence lawyering up is 100% standard. He's awful but this means nothing.

Yep. Even an absolutely clean guy should get a damn good lawyer. You never know when somebody who is going down will try to bring you with them.

06-15-2017 , 07:01 PM

#40703

FlyWf

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It remains extremely funny that Trump, despite 3 debates and like a year to learn about the story, still appears to think Clinton used actual bleach to do something to the emails. He just can't wrap his head around the concept that a program could be named BleachBit.

06-15-2017 , 07:04 PM

#40704

Trolly McTrollson

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lol, Pence's lawyer appears to be more top-flight than Trump's.

06-15-2017 , 07:06 PM

#40705

CheckRaise

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I don't think I would talk to my parents anymore if they were trumpeters

06-15-2017 , 07:08 PM

#40706

DrChesspain

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Quote:

Originally Posted by simplicitus

It's like gop policy and the 2018 election are the baby, ryan is pleading with King Solomon not to harm it and Trump is teaching it to do shots and juggle knives.

06-15-2017 , 07:09 PM

#40707

otatop

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Originally Posted by StimAbuser

Could be worse. My dad says we need to nuke the middle east, he's serious. If people got jobs they wouldn't need health coverage from the government, just lazy people wanting to live off taxpayer money.

Have you asked him why employers are so oddly generous that they pay for their employees' insurance?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

I was going to say he at least put quotes around bleach this time but I'm pretty sure he's use quotes for emphasis before so...

06-15-2017 , 07:11 PM

#40708

Riverman

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Do you guys have people bringing up trump in your offices? I don't know if I could handle working for or even with a Trump supporter.

06-15-2017 , 07:14 PM

#40709

wheatrich

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Originally Posted by Our House

1) She flat out faulted me for "learning too much" and not living a happy-go-lucky life that ignores things we don't like to hear. "politics shouldn't affect you so much"* she said.

She's right on this one. If you wanna be unhappy as soon as possible, pay attention to politics. I make this mistake all the time too. Don't enter this thread or pay attention every day like you do; go accomplish something instead.

06-15-2017 , 07:14 PM

#40710

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Originally Posted by StimAbuser

Ask your dad if he's at odds with Trump, who said Australia has better health care than we do. Better than both Obamacare AND Trumpcare.

It must be one of those huge divides between Trump and Trumpkins. Funny, cause my mom said Trump did do some wrong stuff as POTUS, but couldn't name one item when I asked.

06-15-2017 , 07:16 PM

#40711

wheatrich

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Originally Posted by Riverman

Do you guys have people bringing up trump in your offices? I don't know if I could handle working for or even with a Trump supporter.

Better this than growing up in it. You guys all know I'm all sorts of messed up.

06-15-2017 , 07:16 PM

#40712

aoFrantic

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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27

Slipping, your mask is.

Wheatrich is basically the posting version of mission impossible 2.

06-15-2017 , 07:17 PM

#40713

Dominic

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

I see dom stealing my Shakespeare goofs, I must be doing something right!

I only steal from the best

06-15-2017 , 07:18 PM

#40714

wheatrich

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

Wheatrich is basically the posting version of mission impossible 2.

so are you guys the terrorists or the ones infected?

06-15-2017 , 07:19 PM

#40715

aoFrantic

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Originally Posted by fatkid

Yes he will nuke. Instead of codes they put an app on his phone with a 4-digit password so he can just select a country and hit launch.

He will be playing clash of clans but thinking he's nuking Iran, it's basically a reverse enders game.

06-15-2017 , 07:19 PM

#40716

simplicitus

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Special counsel is investigating Jared Kushner’s business dealings

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.232dd3764210

06-15-2017 , 07:22 PM

#40717

Money2Burn

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Originally Posted by Our House

Well, we thought there was a chance Pence was cleanish. That chance just went down quite a bit.

His hiring of an attorney is not a sign that he's dirty. If you're ever in a situation where you may have been associated with someone who may have been in trouble criminally, you want an attorney, regardless.

06-15-2017 , 07:22 PM

#40718

fatkid

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I do camera gigs at Microsoft sometimes and my lead is a full on Trumper. He doesn't know I know but I saw him on Drudge in the green room one day. It's like 99% never ever Trump in that company. I LOVE to troll his ass by getting in loud conversations with coworkers about how Tump and his crew are giant lying idiots so he can hear. He just kinda smiles and nods like he's going along with the crowd knowing he can't reveal his dirty shameful Trump love.

06-15-2017 , 07:24 PM

#40719

Our House

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

Seems USED TO be right on this one...pre-TRUMP. Did you see the asterisk underneath?

Like everything else Trump does, it's having a big effect on peoples' lives. Mine included. Maybe not so much yours, good for you. He just didn't get you YET. What's bad for you though, is your response showing you're unsympathetic to the problems of other people.

06-15-2017 , 07:28 PM

#40720

AllTheCheese

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leaked RNC/Trump Talking Points Re Obstruction

Clinton's team destroyed electronic devices using hammers and bleach.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

... a wonderful example of the GOP ouroboros in action.

Some background: Clinton or her aides used software called BleachBit to delete old emails (and other junk, the tool's main intended use is to free up storage space). The Republicans seized on this as proof Hillary was engaged in a coverup. They then dramatized it in a campaign ad by having a reenactor pour bleach on a computer.

Now, in their talking points, pouring small-b-bleach on a computer is something that actually happened in reality. They were trying dupe their voters and succeeded in duping themselves. Truly the party of Elmer Fudd.

06-15-2017 , 07:29 PM

#40721

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

*offers solution to problem of other person, gets told he's unsympathetic*

06-15-2017 , 07:30 PM

#40722

Our House

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Money2Burn

I'll reply to this post, but the same principle goes for the others too.

Something about the announcement that Mueller is investigating Trump himself put Pence over the top. Hiring a lawyer never implies guilt, but it does make a difference depending on some factors. The stronger the factors, the more the gap between likely guilt and likely innocence. But it's not zero.

06-15-2017 , 07:33 PM

#40723

Money2Burn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

Do you guys have people bringing up trump in your offices? I don't know if I could handle working for or even with a Trump supporter.

Only one of my bosses is a vocal Trump guy, and he's really more of a Team Republican-type person. He gets up for the sport of the politics debate, a typical privileged white guy. I feel lucky, though in that my office is overwhelmingly liberal, considering it's in a wealthy area of Florida.

06-15-2017 , 07:35 PM

#40724

Money2Burn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

I don't know what to say, other than this is wrong. You don't ever want to take your chances without a lawyer, even if you are 100% innocent, in a position like Pence's.

06-15-2017 , 07:39 PM

#40725

simplicitus

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Pence probably received a preservation letter and got a lawyer. Pretty standard.

Most of the leaks will be people receiving letters/subpoenas/interview requests, not fbi/Mueller. That's why Trump's statement yesterday accusing the fbi of leaking was so wierd--why piss off fbi/Mueller more with false accusations. It's just dumb.

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