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06-12-2017 , 09:15 PM

#40226

zikzak

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Are there Waffle Houses in Ohio now? That would move the state up a few notches in the power rankings.

06-12-2017 , 09:20 PM

#40227

Clovis8

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Not a single Republican has an ounce of morality. They leave Trump only when his base does which is never ever under any circumstances no matter what Trump does. All that matters is supporting your team. Nothing else.

Astoundingly some of you think Trump will do "something" that will cause either his base of republicans to stop supporting him. This in the face of all the evidence to the contrary.

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06-12-2017 , 09:28 PM

#40228

einbert

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP_TFpL5DeI

Edit:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...01081287200768

06-12-2017 , 09:30 PM

#40229

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by zikzak

Are there Waffle Houses in Ohio now? That would move the state up a few notches in the power rankings.

Confirmed.

06-12-2017 , 09:45 PM

#40230

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The Trump cabinet meeting: Members ranked by how over-the-top they fellated Trump.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/politi...ked/index.html

06-12-2017 , 09:57 PM

#40231

tomrh3

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Firing Mueller seems +EV for Trump. Congress will do nothing. He's already set the tone by firing Comey. I legitimately think I would fire Mueller if I was in Trump's shoes, and then just bomb Syria or something. It seems too easy.

06-12-2017 , 10:01 PM

#40232

uDevil

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Originally Posted by tomrh3

He will tweet at some point that Mueller's services aren't required because Comey exonerated him.

06-12-2017 , 10:15 PM

#40233

Money2Burn

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

It's not delusional, but rather it's close to a ******ed truism, that if the GOP percieves benefit to ousting Trump, then they will oust him. Well no ****. But relying on their perception of benefit provides no comfort to people who feel Trump is a threat to the Republic. The GOP can easily miscalculate, and wait until it's too late. And many will be content to watch Trump erode the norms in such a way that tightens their grip on power. If for instance Trump bucks the courts on the Muslim ban, who in the GOP will percieve benefit in standing up to him against the will of nearly every person who voted for them? Ecriture is on the side of the GOP will come around if it gets too bad, but he's wrong. Count me on Team Brick.

It gets back to what Fly et al routinely point out, the Republican base and their elected officials do not care about any norms or laws for that matter that get in the way of keeping power, making more money, and subverting minorities. There is no "going to far" for these people. That is a concept that only means something to people who appreciate the rule of law and **** like equal protection.

06-12-2017 , 10:22 PM

#40234

jjshabado

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This actually feels sort of relevant:

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/st...42346206146562

06-12-2017 , 10:27 PM

#40235

wheatrich

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I see Steve King's back being Steve King.

06-12-2017 , 10:42 PM

#40236

wheatrich

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McCain's wife now a part of the trump administration. That McCain will do anything other than be disturbed coffin has now been buried under the ground 300 feet.

06-12-2017 , 10:42 PM

#40237

Dominic

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Don't worry, Guys...Dennis Rodman is heading back to North Korea to fix this pesky missile problem.

06-12-2017 , 10:44 PM

#40238

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Did I miss anything good? Or really bad?

ORANGE MONKEY BOY WON'T BE SATISFIED UNTIL WE ACTUALLY HAVE A NEW CIVIL WAR

06-12-2017 , 10:45 PM

#40239

MicroPimpin

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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte

You're insane/stupid if you think people are going to willingly lose their seats just to stand by Trump.

yeah I think most would enjoy ditching Trump. I bet they hate him.

06-12-2017 , 10:49 PM

#40240

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Originally Posted by jjshabado

This actually feels sort of relevant:

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/st...42346206146562

It said "Trump" and then "clever" soon after, which made it a little difficult to trust the rest of it.

06-12-2017 , 10:51 PM

#40241

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Originally Posted by Rococo

Today's televised cabinet meeting was absolutely bat**** insane. I would like to think I would resign from a Cabinet position before participated in that sort of farce.

Hello MR Rococo. Thank you for allowing me to respond to your post. I just want to say what an honor it is to be reading your tremendous post on the 2p2 message boards. Many of us in the politics forum are so happy we get to read posts from such a smart and gracious poster. We look forward to reading many more posts in the years to come! Sexy Jesus in the bathtub!

06-12-2017 , 10:55 PM

#40242

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we all know this fire Mueller thing is fake news, right? It's just Chris Ruddy trial ballooning for his team.

But in case you need some hot fire in your life, there are tweetstorms:

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/st...35986306027520

06-12-2017 , 10:57 PM

#40243

RV Life

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This is a good rant. Wilson is conservative BTW.

Last edited by RV Life; 06-12-2017 at 10:58 PM. Reason: What do I win for coming in 2nd?

06-12-2017 , 10:58 PM

#40244

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Originally Posted by Dominic

Don't worry, Guys...Dennis Rodman is heading back to North Korea to fix this pesky missile problem.

Amazingly Dennis rodman is way more experienced on foreign policy than trump and probably would have been more competent president.

I say this all with no hyperbole and fully understanding the breadth and depth of Rodman's character and capabilities.

06-12-2017 , 11:07 PM

#40245

fatkid

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Rick Wilson wins the twitters.

06-12-2017 , 11:21 PM

#40246

microbet

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Gallup numbers are 59/36.

59 seems to be tied for peak disapproval.

06-12-2017 , 11:23 PM

#40247

Our House

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So, we have to go to bed tonight afraid for our democracy because Trump can't handle the ramped up pressure of a ramped up Senate Intel Committee ramped up Sessions' ass?

Seriously, the SIC is doing amazing work since getting stonewalled last Wednesday. They had that briefing, with NSA Rogers, DNI Coats, FBI McCabe, and DOJ Rosenstein. Then Comey was on Thursday, public in the morning and private in the afternoon. Then I don't remember Friday. Today was a long afternoon meeting with Obama's Head of Homeland Security, and a private briefing tonight (yes, they worked late) with NSA Rogers. Tomorrow afternoon is Sessions in the open.

For anyone who forgot, NSA Mike Rogers is one of the two IC heads who refused to answer a question for hours during their hearing last Weds. There were reports of him and DNI Coats being asked by Trump to downplay the investigation(s) by putting out false statements to the public. That's the subject they wouldn't deny, or talk about in an open hearing. Well, tonight's hearing was closed.

So yeah, dangerous night of not sleeping for the Pres.

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06-12-2017 , 11:28 PM

#40248

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Originally Posted by synth_floyd

So what's the catch? It was scheduled to open years ago? It's going to have a really small production? It won't produce any jobs? It's going to only be open for a short period of time? etc.

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Originally Posted by DTD

you can set your watch to it

06-12-2017 , 11:33 PM

#40249

will1530

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Originally Posted by jman220

Trump can't fire Mueller directly, he can only direct Rosenstein to do so. If Rosenstein fails to do so he can fire Rosenstein. I believe Rosenstein would refuse the order and resign. The third in command is Jeff Wall. He can either pull a Robert Bork or he can resign as well. He's a question mark. After Wall I believe next comes Associate Attorney General Rachel Brand. From what I know of her background (appointed to positions by both GWB and BHO admins), I believe she resigns as well. After her I think you start hitting career beaurocrats and civil servants all of whom almost certainly resign. So the interesting questions are what Wall does and whether Sessions makes the nuclear decision to "unrecuse." Could make the Saturday Night Massacre look like nothing in comparison.

Edit: I have solictor general and associate attorney general reversed in the line of succession here, it'll be Brand, who I really really think refuses the order, followed by Wall.

I believe the regulation Mueller was hired under can be unilaterally changed via executive order. So trump can bypass the massacre by signing an EO and giving his favorite catch phrase himself.