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02-01-2017 , 12:19 AM
But I am not surprised in the least.
But I am not surprised in the least.
But I am not surprised in the least.
But I am not surprised in the least.
But I am not surprised in the least.
02-01-2017 , 12:20 AM
Np, you realize youre wrong, right? You're just trolling for the sake of trolling?

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1487409...diction-update

Imagine reading that blog and going "dude was right."
02-01-2017 , 12:21 AM
The smart money (for example 538) had Trump winning about 29% of the time. 29% events happen all the time, if you've ever played poker substantially you would have a good feel for that.

The polls had Clinton winning by 3% nationally, she ended up winning by 2.1% (2,900,000 votes) nationally. Not very far off. In fact extremely within the acceptable range of error and we never thought differently.

So I think you have an entirely wrong set of assumptions that you are working with.
02-01-2017 , 12:24 AM
Haha oh man that triggered ya'll fast.

But yes NP. You were right and we were wrong. How much for the subscription to your newsletter?
02-01-2017 , 12:28 AM
"Scott Adams was right " is as acceptable a statement as "Steve Bannon is a world class athlete"
02-01-2017 , 12:31 AM
2017: Rise of the A.I. (Alternate Intelligence)

Iv been pretty much glued to this thread the last day or so and gotta say it's been pretty depressing. Reading the comments made by users here skew the observer into thinking things are gonna be just fine and common sense will prevail, but then details like the poll yesterday emerge and show that unfortunately the average American is not as open minded and level headed, quite simply intelligent as the average poster here.
This swift progression towards civil war/ dictatorship needs to be nipped in the bud pretty quickly. Each days ridiculousness is only upstaged by the ****show the following day. And what's scary is I'm sure a lot of the peeps saying he will get reigned in by others are mostly ones who thought the clown would never make it this far. Yet here we are..
02-01-2017 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dilbert
President Obama’s approach was to give a free pass to Islam in general and to any Muslims that were just minding their own business. But the unintended consequence is that Muslims have less incentive to police their own ranks. Trump changed that. Now if you want to stay out of the fight against terrorism it will cost you.

So Trump has created a situation – or will soon – in which the peaceful Muslims will either have to do a lot more to help law enforcement find the terrorists in their midst or else live with an increasingly tainted brand. Trump is issuing no free passes for minding your own business. His model makes you part of the solution or part of the problem. No one gets to sit this one out.
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Originally Posted by smartDFS
All Muslims know of all "terrorists in their midst" or know how to find them with a bit o digging. Also Muslims' natural reaction to a giant "Muslims Not Welcome Here" sign will be to assist U.S. authorities in hunting terrorists.
I honestly can't tell if you're joking or a typical self-absorbed U.S. citizen who can't imagine that people exist outside of North America. You realize there are 1.6 BILLION Muslims on the planet, right? The U.S. population is about 320M.

The:

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Now if you want to stay out of the fight against terrorism it will cost you.
Is particularly hilarious.
02-01-2017 , 12:37 AM
nytimes posted a transcript. highlights:

Today I am keeping another promise to the American people by nominating Judge Neil Gorsuch of the United States Supreme Court to be of the United States Supreme Court.
...
Not only are we looking at the writings of the nominee — and I studied them closely — but he is said to be among the finest and most brilliant oftentimes the writings of any judge for a long, long time.
02-01-2017 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by marke.
2017: Rise of the A.I. (Alternate Intelligence)

Iv been pretty much glued to this thread the last day or so and gotta say it's been pretty depressing. Reading the comments made by users here skew the observer into thinking things are gonna be just fine and common sense will prevail, but then details like the poll yesterday emerge and show that unfortunately the average American is not as open minded and level headed, quite simply intelligent as the average poster here.
This swift progression towards civil war/ dictatorship needs to be nipped in the bud pretty quickly. Each days ridiculousness is only upstaged by the ****show the following day. And what's scary is I'm sure a lot of the peeps saying he will get reigned in by others are mostly ones who thought the clown would never make it this far. Yet here we are..
The normalization phase has already begun. I've already heard otherwise intelligent, compassionate people saying things like "well it hasn't affected my life yet, and he's just doing what he campaigned on so why complain now?"

This article is pretty spot on imo. Everything seems to be going by the book on how to institute an authoritative regime.

https://medium.com/@jakefuentes/the-...0c5#.tgn8rbkej
02-01-2017 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
He had Trump winning the nomination and the general virtually all the way even when he was way behind in the general and he explained his reasoning as to why.
"If the latest groping/kissing allegations against Trump hold up – and I assume they will, based on quantity if not credibility – it won’t matter what Wikileaks says about Clinton. She will win easily."

Shut the **** up jesus
02-01-2017 , 12:40 AM
Set of tweets from Guardian writer Chris Arnade whom I believe traveled all over the US before the election just talking to people all over. Here's an interesting post of his https://medium.com/@Chris_arnade/div...ee7#.iquinv54q
02-01-2017 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by skiier04
The normalization phase has already begun. I've already heard otherwise intelligent, compassionate people saying things like "well it hasn't affected my life yet, and he's just doing what he campaigned on so why complain now?"

This article is pretty spot on imo. Everything seems to be going by the book on how to institute an authoritative regime.

https://medium.com/@jakefuentes/the-...0c5#.tgn8rbkej


I agree.
And if it happens there I can't even imagine what that means for the rest of us
02-01-2017 , 12:45 AM
So I am visiting family and my parents and I went out to dinner tonight. They decided for the first time to tell me about how they immigrated here from the Ukraine. They moved here legally one year before I was born so 30 years ago.

They swear that what they are seeing is text book Russian government tactics. They follow Russian politics super closely, they even have the main Russian TV channel and they watch the news there to see what's happening. We still have many relatives living there and all that jazz.

They told me stories tonight that were seriously chilling and im somewhat shook about it. It's scary because they gave me examples and real stories of how Trump is literally using the kgb playbook which is obviously putins playback.

I think you guys misunderstood my previous post today. It's by no means a carefree it will be OK no harm no foul, but at least to me it's comforting we get to have a lol fair election in 4 years.

The alternative right is indeed running this country, and the lenonist is in control
02-01-2017 , 12:50 AM
There was a Vox article about Trump and Pharma CEO's earlier that I thought came to some stretch conclusions based on very little. Here's a better one that has way more interesting info about the meeting and what was said. http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/31/trump...in-the-us.html
02-01-2017 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
This is another example of where I think liberals screw up by trying to inflame outrage. This is not about Muslims. This is about people (many whom are women and children) fleeing the ravages of war. Most rational people can agree that anyone who turns them away and refuses to harbor and offer safety and refuge are straight up *******s.

Just because Islamophobes tie all Muslims to terrorism doesn't mean liberals have to play right into their hands by making this about respecting a religion. It's okay not to respect a set of beliefs and when you try and force people to, you get maximum resistance and a president Trump.
I'm not trying to inflame outrage, I'm pointing out that what Bannon and Miller set out to do was literally outrageous. The whole point of this policy and the way it was implemented was to maximize the visible pain it inflicted on Muslims, full stop. It was a statistically inevitability that one or more people would end up like this woman and they could care less.
02-01-2017 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
Ummmmm... No one?

Jonathan Turley on the constitutionality of trump's order:

“The law does favor President Trump in this regard,” Turley said Sunday during an appearance on CNN’s Fareed Zakaria GPS. “I don’t like this order. I think it’s a terrible mistake — but that doesn’t go into the legal analysis. The Court has been extremely deferential to presidents on the border.”

.....“And you have things like Section 1182 of the federal law that gives sweeping authority to the president to withhold either individual aliens or groups of aliens,” he added. “All of that works to the advantage of President Trump.”

According to Turley, however, the courts are unlikely to see the order as a ban on Muslims.

“I do not believe a federal court will view this as a Muslim ban,” Turley said Sunday. “I don’t think the court can. Regardless of what the court may think of President Trump’s motivations, the fact that other Muslim countries are not included is going to move that off the table and what’s going to be left is whether the president has this type of authority. Historically courts have said that he does.”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/29/tu...#ixzz4XOlYRFIL
Guilliani on a news show saying specifically that a Muslim ban is what Trump wanted is kind of problem though. Like intent is a legal thing you might want to look up.
02-01-2017 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dudeoflife
I guess I don't understand why it really matters what they do if he's going to get in regardless. Just a symbolic gesture to fire up base?
If they filibuster his nomination he's not getting in unless McConnell eliminates the filibuster, which unless I'm mistaken he wouldn't be able to do until the next session and even then he might not have the votes to do.
02-01-2017 , 01:50 AM
So if you married a Mexican girl, she moved here, you lost your job or had some financial hardship (like being scammed from Trump University or buying a home in 2007 etc) and you were on government assistance.. she is getting deported and you will have to pay the government back whatever she got?

Brave New World.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...rants-welfare?
02-01-2017 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Heroball
There were several Asians.
As an Asian I am ashamed and not surprised.
02-01-2017 , 02:57 AM
^ Actually looks like maybe the Reddit post copied this rep from California. Either way, well done.
https://twitter.com/RepMarkTakano/st...00879432282112
02-01-2017 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigoldnit
So, have we talked about Jerry Falwell Jr. leading a task force on higher education?

http://www.chronicle.com/article/Jer...e-Will/239062/
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Originally Posted by Dominic
yep

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Originally Posted by JoltinJake
The Democrats should just start stealing talking points from Reddit:

"Let's be fair. He seems like a qualified candidate. Democrats should give him the same consideration and respect the GOP gave to Garland."
02-01-2017 , 03:21 AM
Is it helpful or not to think of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Wolfowitz, Gonzales, Rove, patriot act, guantanamo, iraq, Reagan, Schultz, Watt, Weinberger, Haig, Baker, Nixon, Agnew, Mitchell, Kissinger, Buchanan, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Dominican Republic, Chile, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Panama, Iran/Contra, Abu Ghraib....and how maybe this is just regular Republicanism and it's so intense because we get news constantly in a way that we didn't even get for W (for those even old enough to have paid attention)?

POTUS firing 11000 air traffic controllers (lifetime ban on rehiring too) seem kind of crazy?

Or does all that make it more depressing?

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02-01-2017 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
You can use all the expletives you choose, but I do not think the US Constitution guarantees entry to the US to any non citizen.

Prof. Turley seems to agree. Whether it is good policy is another issue.

To get some insight of what the President might be doing:

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1565322...nd-immigration
Well, he is 0-5 defending the EO in court, so there's that. OTOH, Jonathan Turley.
02-01-2017 , 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dudeoflife
I got into a FB debate(I realize first mistake) with someone from high school. He told me I need to read scott Adams(never heard of him) blog, saying trump was going to move to center and then went on tyrant about how it's all Clinton/obama's fault. Surprising because he was super smart in high school.
Hypnotized ldo.

      
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