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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

06-08-2017 , 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by prana
Regarding the Reality Winner leak and Russians. Is the attempted machine infiltration getting close to an act of war or we just let it happen and take it on the chin? Probably lift all sanctions until we can figure out what is going on.
Its an act of cyber war. Be nice if we returned the favor and exposed Putin and Russian corruption to its people. Troll their internet?
06-08-2017 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
Really good posting by DVaut, as usual. Imagine if Malia Obama said she didn't see Republicans as humans? People's heads would literally have exploded. The hypocrisy is infuriating to deal with and it's so tempting to point out but he's right: Dem voters and sympathizers don't care. I'm outraged by Eric Trump's comments (straight up Nazi talk) but it hardly seems to have caused a ripple in the liberal sphere. We just need to emphasize why we're better than them, it shouldn't be this hard - Republicans have no ideas for helping the vast majority of Americans, full stop.
He just doesn't like it when "people" address the government and express their grievances. True blue American. MAGA.
06-08-2017 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by poconoder
Its a lot easier to speculate than to produce real facts. The media has done fine with the speculation, they will struggle to convey the same Trump-is-guilty message when it comes to fact based reporting. CNN just had to issue a correction about their previous speculative reporting in light of Comey's statement.
So?? Fox has to issue at least 10 corrections a day. They just don't. A correction is a good thing because it sets the record straight. Nobody's perfect, right? Right. So deal with it every once in a while.

Also, look at what the correction is over! Whoopty do, big friggin deal. Trump does so much worse daily. Instead of calling Trump out for it, you pass the blame to the media or the left, just like Daddy taught you.

Right above the bold is talk about media speculation and a Trump-is-guilty message. You mean, you actually think it's a message? You think the news isn't reporting actual Trump moves and actual Trump words? Don't be blind. Even Trump himself confesses on TV and Twitter. Do his own words count? Because if you're defending Trump while not believing Trump, that's a whole new level of silly.
06-08-2017 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
I still don't understand why there aren't ads with cancer kids running every ****ing day with the kid saying "Paul Ryan wants to take my health care away" and shedding a single tear.
06-08-2017 , 08:01 AM
That's a good start, I'd like to see more imagery of kids in hospital beds with all kinds of machines hooked up to them and that kind of thing, but yeah. Exactly.
06-08-2017 , 08:02 AM
Hell, have a family move out of a nice house in the suburbs and into a tiny apartment because their kid got cancer and RepubliCare. If that doesn't hit home with people I don't know what will.
06-08-2017 , 08:20 AM
Turn old people against Trump.

Get some old white guy on there, have him say every dogwhistly thing out there about Obama and then have him close by saying at least he knew Obama wasn't going to take away medicare. "At least Obamacare kept my coverage. What's this guy Trump got? Twittercare? hmmph."

My Dad (very liberal, despises Trump) is 66 and hates Twitter. I guarantee he doesn't know the basics of what Twitter is other than a way for celebrities to send out unimportant messages. If the DNC wants to win over old voters, emphasize that Trump is always on Twitter, like one of the Kardashians.
06-08-2017 , 08:23 AM




https://twitter.com/NBCNewsPR/status/872784623247470593
06-08-2017 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
I love me some Dershowitz troll. I think he has a mar a lago membership. He just will not stay off TRUMPs ween.

dershowitz has gone public multiple times over years (to be fair he has been consistent throughout administrations) to assert that he believes obstruction of justice should not be a crime at all.
06-08-2017 , 08:30 AM
I expected Trump to be watching in his underwear on his barcalounger with his laptop.
06-08-2017 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
This ad sucks. By the time people catch on to it besides that its sad you'll have lost the whole audience. Has DNC written all over it.
06-08-2017 , 08:45 AM
Welp theres the uk election results and the comey hearing both going on tonight. Both have a 90% chance of a ****ty result but man that 10% would be sweet. And if we hit the 100/1 middle what a day that would be.
06-08-2017 , 08:57 AM
Whoever the **** is in charge of messaging for the Democrats should be taken out back. We are right on literally every single issue! Look at what these *******s are pursuing:

- taking away health care for 20+ million people
- gutting environmental regulation
- gutting financial regulation
- cutting hundreds of billions of taxes for .01%

And you still lose? To that agenda?
06-08-2017 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
dershowitz has gone public multiple times over years (to be fair he has been consistent throughout administrations) to assert that he believes obstruction of justice should not be a crime at all.
If he's going to represent himself on shows as a Harvard legal expert, he should at least be talking about what the law says, and not what he believes the law should be.
06-08-2017 , 09:06 AM
In fairness they're losing to a billionaire funded state sponsored propaganda machine laser targeted at 60 million morons. Plus guns, fetuses, the baby g and liberal snowflakes. Still lol democrats but not so straight forward.
06-08-2017 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Whoever the **** is in charge of messaging for the Democrats should be taken out back. We are right on literally every single issue! Look at what these *******s are pursuing:

- taking away health care for 20+ million people
- gutting environmental regulation
- gutting financial regulation
- cutting hundreds of billions of taxes for .01%

And you still lose? To that agenda?
-Gays are marrying, adopting and daring to use public restrooms.

-Bakers everywhere are overburdened with orders for penis cakes

-Jesus is lord everywhere...but the classroom???

-They shut down my coal mine and all I got was this lousy T-shirt black lung

-The gubmint is coming for the missile defense system in my backyard

-Blue lives MATTER! Won't someone think of the blues?

It's not that their messaging is so much better; it's that their audience is exponentially worse
06-08-2017 , 09:10 AM
Someone is going to say "Russian hookers" at the hearings today. This is real life.
06-08-2017 , 09:12 AM
And in my estimation the single biggest thing that is going to keep red districts red in 2018 is, remarkably, the fact that local gubmints are going around removing monuments of the defenders of slavery and treason because HERITAGE FOUNDATION NOT HATE
06-08-2017 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WichitaDM
The investigation pre-dates the special counsel by a long time so I am not sure how that is relevant?
you mean the FBI didn't brief you on the progress of the investigations into Trump?


I know I got my memo
06-08-2017 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
Wouldn't the seriousness of the obstruction charge be directly related to the seriousness of the Flynn case? I think at least one of Flynn's phone conversations with the Russians was recorded. So if he did something treasonous it would really amp up the obstruction case against Trump IMO. If Flynn did nothing wrong, as Trump contends, then maybe Trump gets a pass on the obstruction. For now, its enough to know that Trump tried to short-circuit the investigation.
Obstruction is obstruction, regardless of why you are doing it, or how bad the crime he's worried about being exposed.
06-08-2017 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
As someone who worked in mental health for nearly a decade the amount of professionalism demonstrated by those employed in the field varies widely, and I can't imagine any responsible clinician actually making such a statement about someone they haven't personally evaluated.
Yeah this is accurate.
06-08-2017 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Whoever the **** is in charge of messaging for the Democrats should be taken out back. We are right on literally every single issue! Look at what these *******s are pursuing:

- taking away health care for 20+ million people
- gutting environmental regulation
- gutting financial regulation
- cutting hundreds of billions of taxes for .01%

And you still lose? To that agenda?
How much more can they do? Better ads would be about it. They riled up the constituents and sent them to town halls. Republicans just took the criticism and went on to make the bill even stricter. Dems offered their suggestions and support in crafting a change or replacement bill but Rs just went ahead and rammed an abortion through anyway.

The suck part now is how you could face stiff penalties for nothing illegal. Protest peacefully and you might get detained. Laugh at someone and get arrested. Get upset at a town hall and the R-******* goes after your job. Tell a Trump family joke and be the target of an investigation. Run for office and receive enough death threats to have to drop out. Question Trumpcare and get bodyslammed.

Reps just ain't playin' fair.
06-08-2017 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
If he's going to represent himself on shows as a Harvard legal expert, he should at least be talking about what the law says, and not what he believes the law should be.
So like the opposite of a law professor?
06-08-2017 , 10:00 AM
I'll just paste this again, I wrote this last July way before the election:

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Originally Posted by einbert
Trump would probably be big on corporate subsidies, gaining him even more friends in the corporate, union, and mob world. He would probably have no problem subsidizing his own companies, as "they are some of the greatest companies in the world and thus a great investment." And if it becomes a scandal, he'll simply laugh and say he's making America great again. A few months into office, it becomes evident that he can pretty much do anything he wants as his approval rating hovers between 40-42% while there are round-the-clock protests at the White House over the huge new stimulus package (largely aimed at Trump companies and partners) and the new war with China.

The new Attorney General Christie announces his indictment of Hillary Clinton, and she will immediately be put on trial for charges of "Wreckless endangerment of US security" for Benghazi, her email server, and a laundry list of other charges. Cops will be facing more violence, as the BLM protests and mass shootings continue to increase. Trump announces a martial state, hiring 50,000 new cops immediately, but they will be handled by a third party security company, Trump Security. The new cops immediately come in and shut down the protests, by whatever means necessary. They use their new devices to shut down any cell phone cameras in the area.

Trump has weekly television addresses where he talks about how hard he is working to "Make America Great Again". His sons and daughters are appointed to major positions. Donald Trump Jr. becomes the youngest Chief Justice of the United States. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is put on trial for corruption and ethics charges and ultimately sent to prison.

Trump and the Republican Congress pass a new series of laws aimed at protecting law enforcement. They include immunity from prosecution for any shootings occurring "in the normal course of business as a law enforcement officer of the United States" and giving local municipalities complete control over any body camera and cell phone footage that may be created by an incident, whether it is created by the public or the police.

I guess what I'm saying is, he's really gonna make America great again.
06-08-2017 , 10:10 AM

      
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