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06-06-2017 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
I know next to nothing about the infrastructure of the internet, but why the hell cant we just cut off Russia's access to it? Just isolate the whole ****ing country. Make them send telegrams and ****.
I don't think there's enough internet infrastructure on US soil to do it, and most of it is privately owned anyway.
06-06-2017 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
Russian hackers don't need to be in Russia.
We know where a bunch of them were and our president is working on returning 2 spy buildings back to Russia because of a threat they made against us last week.

Good stuff.
06-06-2017 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
I'm not sure how their nukes would get their access to the internet back?
Retaliation, cutting off their internet would be an act of war imo.
06-06-2017 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
Retaliation, cutting off their internet would be an act of war imo.
That would just lead to their own destruction, though.
06-06-2017 , 08:23 PM
6 people killed in Terrorist attack = Can we please setup interment camps?

6 people killed in office shooting = The price of freedom.
06-06-2017 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
That would just lead to their own destruction, though.
Killing their internet would be economically crippling. In the event it could be done what do you imagine Putin's response would be?
06-06-2017 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e180925d8ccf

Story just broke, "nations top intelligence official told associates in march that president trump ask him if he could intervene with then fbi director james b comey to get the bureau to back off its focus on former national security adviser michael flynn in its russia probe, according to officials"
Ted Lieu going off on Hayes' show right now. This is actionable, so no action will of course be taken.
06-06-2017 , 08:30 PM
Speaking of Chris Hayes, Rachel is back tonight!
06-06-2017 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e180925d8ccf

Story just broke, "nations top intelligence official told associates in march that president trump ask him if he could intervene with then fbi director james b comey to get the bureau to back off its focus on former national security adviser michael flynn in its russia probe, according to officials"
Fake news. Your the obstruction with your lamestream media posts dude.
06-06-2017 , 08:45 PM
They are going to turn this into

"Well, Trump had no idea that he was obstructing justice because he is a not a politician, so it does not count. Also, crooked Hillary."
06-06-2017 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
They are going to turn this into

"Well, Trump had no idea that he was obstructing justice because he is a not a politician, so it does not count. Also, crooked Hillary."
The smartest, wisest, best negotiator, most strategic, brilliant billionaire businessman was just naive.
06-06-2017 , 08:56 PM

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/872247283626201089
06-06-2017 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
What are we supposed to believe Trump is upset with Sessions about? Hasn't he been dutifully working to oppress minorities? Was that not actually what he was supposed to do?
Trump's mad Sessions recused himself instead of preventing Mueller.
06-06-2017 , 09:15 PM
jefferson promised in private that he would be loyal to donald #1 and constitution of the united states #2, and trump feels betrayed. from the perspective of a 12-year-old girl which is trump's exact perspective: jefferson is a "fake friend"
06-06-2017 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fuluck414
Put the answers on screen then. I would hope a presidential candidate would know the Senate Pres is third in line.
Well you don't know who 3rd in line is to the Presidency.

The "Senate Pres" is not 3rd in line to the Presidency.

The President of the Senate is 1st in line to the Presidency.
06-06-2017 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e180925d8ccf

Story just broke, "nations top intelligence official told associates in march that president trump ask him if he could intervene with then fbi director james b comey to get the bureau to back off its focus on former national security adviser michael flynn in its russia probe, according to officials"
The kind of hidden takeaway from this sort of thing is how corrupt the business world must be in USA#1. It's clear that Trump not only did this sort of thing 24/7 while managing his businesses, but that it was so routine that he had no idea that trying it as POTUS would result in blowback.
06-06-2017 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
I've countered this a few times, so why not again?

1) Information is FLYING around today. People who were alive for Nixon almost unanimously say where we are now after 4 months feels like the end of Watergate.

2) Nixon was smart and experienced with the law and the government. Trump, not so much. I mean, he isn't even planning on STFUing at all. He's gonna live tweet Comey for Christ's sake!

3) We're not just talking crime + cover-up like with Nixon. Trump is involved with so much more, both legal and illegal. He's misusing the power of the presidency to run a HUGE deception campaign against the public, erode democracy, damage US interests, stack the government with mini-Trump loyalists, tear apart global relations, discriminate by class and race and religion, anger everyone, spread fear, gut our economy for personal gain, should I go on? The point of this is that the serious investigations aren't blind. They realize the rush.
To add to all this, there's also the fairly good chance at this point that he actually is an agent working directly for the Russians.
06-06-2017 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
Well you don't know who 3rd in line is to the Presidency.

The "Senate Pres" is not 3rd in line to the Presidency.

The President of the Senate is 1st in line to the Presidency.
then what does a vice president do?
06-06-2017 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
then what does a vice president do?
Obviously you are not a golfer
06-06-2017 , 09:35 PM
The Vice President presides over the Senate. Still don't know why you guys engage him.
06-06-2017 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
You guys still seem to WAY underestimate how stupid and uninformed Trump is. I'd go with:

- What are the three branches of the federal government?

- How many members of Congress are there?

- What does GDP stand for and how is it calculated?

and for the "zero chance he gets it" option:

- What is the job title of the individual who represents the federal government before the Supreme Court?
Majority of americans can't correctly answer each of those questions. Has to be < 10% could answer # of members of congress. Last one I'd pick under 2%.

It doesn't matter if someone running for POTUS can't answer these Q's if the people can't answer these Q's. They don't and won't care.

Try questions people can answer, it's not what are the branches of gov't most can't answer that.

The three branches of gov't is only 25% of americans btw and I'd bet that being the highest % of this list.
You guys need to go way way way lower before a candidate could actually be DQ'd from some question.

It's the same mistake over and over from the campaign. Trump said something ridic and everyone here insisted that was it for him over and over and if anything, he only gained from it and now we're seeing this in the thread again, oh ask them 3rd grade Q's, that'll sink those candidates.
No it won't because the rest of americans can't correctly answer them either.

This is one thing you guys just can't wrap your heads around. People didn't and won't laugh at trump b/c he is stupid--they were all happy they could support someone just as stupid as they are. It's you guys who use big words just talk down at us real americans who are the real stupid ones and all that.
06-06-2017 , 09:40 PM
Trump is now suggesting that he will build a wall covered in solar panels to pay for it. http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politi...all/index.html

The wall is obviously stupid and doesn't do anything, but if we can really do that big of an infrastructure project and develop that much clean energy, for the wrong reasons this could be a really good thing for the country.
06-06-2017 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
This is actually a good point. Palin was the only one who EVER got that treatment and failed miserably. Perhaps we can compromise between your desire to bring back polls tests, one of the debates should be literally each candidate taking like a 10th-11th grade civics test.
Lol, the 'gotcha' question was what's her name asking her what newspapers she read.
06-06-2017 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e180925d8ccf

Story just broke, "nations top intelligence official told associates in march that president trump ask him if he could intervene with then fbi director james b comey to get the bureau to back off its focus on former national security adviser michael flynn in its russia probe, according to officials"
I saw this too, and it sounded very familiar. May 23:

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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Unrelated: Trump asked high-ranking intelligence officials to help him push back against Comey's FBI investigation

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Coats and Rogers refused to comply with the requests, which they both deemed to be inappropriate, according to two current and two former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private communications with the president.
Details seem slightly different this time, but largely the same theme?
06-06-2017 , 09:47 PM
Not sure if my pony is slow and this has already been reported given the Sessions talk, but WaPo reporting that Sessions offered to resign at one point

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Trump learned of the attorney general’s decision [to recuse himself] shortly before Sessions announced it at a news conference. The president’s anger has lingered for months, according to the people close to the White House, who said Trump blames Sessions’s recusal as a factor that prompted the decision last month by Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein to appoint a special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, to oversee the expanding Russian investigation.

Trump has also grown frustrated with the way his travel ban has been stalled in federal courts, the people added.

It is unclear when Sessions offered to resign, and Trump refused the offer. The moment was brief and Sessions made the suggestion after weeks of Trump’s disgruntlement and tense private meetings, according to the two people close to the White House who requested anonymity to speak candidly. Trump made clear to Sessions that while he did not like Sessions’s decision to recuse himself, these people said, he still had faith in his attorney general.

      
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